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    History is pretty easily explained: the USA has only been free of the most egregious racial exclusion and discrimination for less than 20% of its existence. In spite of all their present whining, whites were indeed in charge the entire time.

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    The reverend references King. The thread's author is misinterpreting his prayer.
    no I am not misinterpreting his prayer.

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    The discussion hasn't changed. White men have been in political, social, and economic control of the United States of America since its foundation as a nation. The wrongdoings of white men impacted the country infinitely greater than any wrongdoings of minorities. That's my point. No one is blameless or flawless. But, those in power and their decisions make the most impact on the nation. And, that's why it's inevitable that the criticism is the harshest to the white man. That's just how it is.

    We don't need to talk about slavery in other countries because we're talking about this country. It's not to say that all white people share blame, or that people who are not white are blameless. It is to say that when we speak in generalizations, as Dr. Lowery did, it's not an unfair point to say the people who have been predominantly in power should embrace what is right, while those people who have not shared in the rights the people in power have had get a similar chance at rights and freedoms to make their lives better.

    It's not a different discussion at all. It's clarification of what he's talking about and why.

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    The discussion hasn't changed. White men have been in political, social, and economic control of the United States of America since its foundation as a nation. The wrongdoings of white men impacted the country infinitely greater than any wrongdoings of minorities. That's my point. No one is blameless or flawless. But, those in power and their decisions make the most impact on the nation. And, that's why it's inevitable that the criticism is the harshest to the white man. That's just how it is.
    Did I ever tell you about the time a black guy yelled at me at a gas station?

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    The discussion hasn't changed. White men have been in political, social, and economic control of the United States of America since its foundation as a nation. The wrongdoings of white men impacted the country infinitely greater than any wrongdoings of minorities. That's my point. No one is blameless or flawless. But, those in power and their decisions make the most impact on the nation. And, that's why it's inevitable that the criticism is the harshest to the white man. That's just how it is.

    We don't need to talk about slavery in other countries because we're talking about this country. It's not to say that all white people share blame, or that people who are not white are blameless. It is to say that when we speak in generalizations, as Dr. Lowery did, it's not an unfair point to say the people who have been predominantly in power should embrace what is right, while those people who have not shared in the rights the people in power have had get a similar chance at rights and freedoms to make their lives better.

    It's not a different discussion at all. It's clarification of what he's talking about and why.
    and again - -it might have been more relevant when the words were first uttered -- not today. It is further indication of black liberation theology which promotes no unity -- that same theology at Obama's church of 20 years. To say such things in a prayer - that white embrace what is right is divisive - not unifying and contradictory to the perception you clones and subjects have of your savior. Several "white" people have suffered the same prejudices and discriminations.

    We can focus on slavery in this country and the story of slavery in this country needs to include how those slaves were obtained in Africa.

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    Did I ever tell you about the time a black guy yelled at me at a gas station?
    Nope. Please do tell.

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    Whites should embrace what is wrong!

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    Did I ever tell you about the time a black guy yelled at me at a gas station?
    Did you then find it necessary to harp about states' rights and use a symbol to display your indignation for the desecration of the America of old?

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    Several "white" people have suffered the same prejudices and discriminations.
    You got that right. He was yelling really loud.

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    Did you then find it necessary to harp about states' rights and use a symbol to display your indignation for the desecration of the America of old?
    or did you form groups like the NAACP - the ACLU the UNCF etc to fight for your rights ? did you ask for affirmative action and tell the gas station owner he should pump to you before the other guy because of your race ?

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    no I am not misinterpreting his prayer.
    Then you need to widen your perspective of it by reading King's Mountaintop speech.

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    or did you form groups like the NAACP - the ACLU the UNCF etc to fight for your rights ? did you ask for affirmative action and tell the gas station owner he should pump to you before the other guy because of your race ?
    It's funny how over your head the inside jokes are going.

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    Then you need to widen your perspective of it by reading King's Mountaintop speech.
    No I dont.

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    implacable wants to be oppressed too -- he's just begging for it.

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    and again - -it might have been more relevant when the words were first uttered -- not today. It is further indication of black liberation theology which promotes no unity -- that same theology at Obama's church of 20 years. To say such things in a prayer - that white embrace what is right is divisive - not unifying and contradictory to the perception you clones and subjects have of your savior. Several "white" people have suffered the same prejudices and discriminations.
    Don't deny that. "Several" compared to hundreds of thousands is the distinction.

    For the record, while I voted for Obama, I don't have any blinded notions that he is a savior or a perfect man. Like most, I am happier with the fact that he's not George W. Bush rather than he is black or mixed or Democrat or whatever else. But there is also no denying what his election to the Presidency represents for this nation. Whether he ends up becoming a great president or not remains to be seen. The fact that a person of color was able to be elected to the office of the President of the United States of America in and of itself speaks to the mass changing of perception of the country as a whole. That's what is great about today. It's not just about Obama. It's about what his election represents. It's about this country embracing a broader scope of culture and diversity.

    In your bitterness to point out a perceived insult to "white people," you're missing what's so great about today. It's not just about black or white or one "race" showing up the other. It's about the nation being able to embrace both, and beyond that, other races, other religions, other cultures. I'm not white. I'm not black. And, it still gives me a sense of pride that the country I live in has in some ways opened itself to a more multicultural view of itself.


    We can focus on slavery in this country and the story of slavery in this country needs to include how those slaves were obtained in Africa.

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    Acknowledging and realizing there is blame to be shared does not relinquish blame from white slavery or the white government that allowed slavery to last 200 years. That's an incongruent argument.

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    implacable wants to be oppressed too -- he's just begging for it.
    He could start his own organization. The SVLU. The Sandy Vagina Liberation Union.

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    Nope. Please do tell.


    CD was referencing an older post of his in defense of stores selling shirts with Obama's image that said " z run 'dis ".

    Someone on the board got all indignant about it and after using CD-mind tricks stated that the offended white people come off as guys who had a "black guy [yell] at me at a gas station", thus the reason they look for reverse racism in everything.

    Now that I have explained the joke, I have ruined the joke. But I dont think it fair if you misinterpret his message, JS.

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    implacable wants to be oppressed too -- he's just begging for it.
    your mom oppresses me all the time ma'am

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    Did you then find it necessary to harp about states' rights and use a symbol to display your indignation for the desecration of the America of old?
    no. it led me down the path to plagiarism.

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    Don't deny that. "Several" compared to hundreds of thousands is the distinction.

    For the record, while I voted for Obama, I don't have any blinded notions that he is a savior or a perfect man. Like most, I am happier with the fact that he's not George W. Bush rather than he is black or mixed or Democrat or whatever else. But there is also no denying what his election to the Presidency represents for this nation. Whether he ends up becoming a great president or not remains to be seen. The fact that a person of color was able to be elected to the office of the President of the United States of America in and of itself speaks to the mass changing of perception of the country as a whole. That's what is great about today. It's not just about Obama. It's about what his election represents. It's about this country embracing a broader scope of culture and diversity.

    In your bitterness to point out a perceived insult to "white people," you're missing what's so great about today. It's not just about black or white or one "race" showing up the other. It's about the nation being able to embrace both, and beyond that, other races, other religions, other cultures. I'm not white. I'm not black. And, it still gives me a sense of pride that the country I live in has in some ways opened itself to a more multicultural view of itself.




    Acknowledging and realizing there is blame to be shared does not relinquish blame from white slavery or the white government that allowed slavery to last 200 years. That's an incongruent argument.
    it is not an incongruent argument - it is part of the argument that is ALWAYS left out because it does not benefit the blame WHITEY and give us all en lements agenda.

    I agree with you and I think it is a great thing as well. I hope that it also means I will never have to listen to the race card being played again.

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    your mom oppresses me all the time ma'am
    She's dead, so either you're a necrophiliac or a bad liar.

    I'd believe either one since you already hate America.

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    I never knew that I have been in political, social, and economic control of the United States…

    I just thought that all this time I was working two jobs, 90 plus hours a week, to pay for groceries, rent & my kids orthodontist bills…

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    She's dead, so either you're a necrophiliac or a bad liar.

    I'd believe either one since you already hate America.
    Isn't this the same guy who said "no hard feelings" and then wouldn't take back what he said about your mother? I guess he wants hard feelings...about dead people. What a sicko.

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    Isn't this the same guy who said "no hard feelings" and then wouldn't take back what he said about your mother? I guess he wants hard feelings...about dead people. What a sicko.
    I don't know why people keep going there after all this time. It never ends well for them.

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    I dont harbor any hard feelings - I have no feelings at all for either of you - well anyone on this board really. now unwad your panties, girls.

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