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    And I haven't been wrong about him once
    whottt, youre never wrong. You know that better than anyone else.

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    Except it isn't and I'm not. Bush stayed long enough to make money and nothing else.
    Depennds on your definition of nothing else...I'd call the getting that stadium built(it was a good for the Rangers and their fans) and getting the team to the playoffs the absolute highpoints of Ranger history.


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    Completely relevant. You're just pissed that I pointed it out and you know it's true. Just like all the other times.
    I don't disagree with you that it's true about making money off the taxpayers, nor does it piss me off, since the money he made off the taxpayers, was something that also improved the team and the community, n ot to mention exponentially increased the value of the franchise and madr them a more attractive venue for free agents(hitters, not pitchers)...where I disagree is that it's relevant to the discussion about whether or not he was a competent, dare I say, great, owner of the Rangers..when clearly, he was the best of the lot. Regardless of how he turned a profit, or any and all twists and interpretations you want to make...he was the best owner of the team in history, and his ownership was the hightpoint of the franchise.

    His motivation is and was MOOT to the discussion.

    By any relative comparison, he was an extremely competent and successful owner.

    Personally...I think you could avoid these sort of conflicts if you'd you'd just change your tone when making observations...then again, you wouldn't be Chump anymore if you did that...now would you?

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    Depennds on your definition of nothing else...I'd call the getting that stadium built(it was a good for the Rangers and their fans) and getting the team to the playoffs the absolute highpoints of Ranger history.
    Way to set the bar low.

    No Sherlock...
    Thanks for agreeing with me after pretending not to once again.

    I don't disagree with you that it's true about making money off the taxpayers, nor does it piss me off, since the money he made off the taxpayers, was something that improved the team and the community...where I disagree is that it's relevant to the discussion about whether or not he was a competent, dare I say, great, owner of the Rangers..when clearly, he was the best of the lot. Regardless of how he turned a profit, or any and all twists and interpretations you want to make...he was the best owner of the team in history, and his ownership was the hightpoint of the franchise.

    By any relative comparison, he was an extremely competent and successful owner.

    Personally...I think you could avoid these sort of conflicts if you'd you'd just change your tone when making observations...then again, you wouldn't be Chump anymore if you did that...now would you?
    Nah, no matter my tone, you'll still be stupid.

    There is no opportunity to make the kind of return on the Cowboys or Mavs that Bush made on the Rangers. So his owning either would be precluded out of the gate and any talk of his owning either would be....moot.

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    It's absolutely true...I threw an absolute storm when he was elected in 2000...and I predicted he'd get us into a war that same night. I'll have to introduce you someone that knew me then...I was by far the leading anti-bush of anyone I knew and had a hatred that surprassed boutons.

    I mean think about it ...if he was back by the military complex, as I stated in point one...war is pretty much a foregone conclusion. Beyond that it wasn't hard to figure out where he was going by listening to him talk.




    Just like you haven't been wrong about the election once -- sixty or seventy times is indeed more than once.
    Huh? I was wrong once...just like you. I was just louder about it.



    Yeah, you're wrong all the time and are pissed about it.
    I'm hardly ever wrong...still. It's still a novelty to me.


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    It's absolutely true...I through an absolute storm when he was elected in 2000...and I predicted get us into a war that same night. I'll have to introduce you someone that knew me then...I was by far the leading anti-bush of anyone I knew and had a hatred that surprassed boutons.
    Can't say I care. I'm just laughing at how impotent the whole thing sounds.

    Huh? I was wrong once...just like you. I was just louder about it.
    And you care much more about being right on the internets.

    I'm hardly ever wrong...still.
    See how important it is to you?

    My internet rep? Good god...
    No, it's "Good God, man!"

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    Can't say I care. I'm just laughing at how impotent the whole thing sounds.

    And you care much more about being right on the internets.
    No...it's just that I am usually right, I know it can be annoying...I often wonder why it's that way myself...It's actually kind of a curse if you want to know the truth about it.


    It really doesn't serve much purpose in a social setting except to piss people off truth be told. Nontheless...it is what it is.

    See how important it is to you?
    It's not that it's important...it's that it's overwhelmingly true. You mistake my love affair with the truth with some sort of obession about being right. You are off on this one...


    No, it's "Good God, man!"
    No...it wasn't.

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    It's not that it's important.
    It's so important to you, you can't stop telling yourself and anyone who will read.

    Even when you are wrong.

    Especially when you are wrong.

    If you ever stopped, I might believe you -- but you can't. There is no way in you could ever stop.

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    I got pictures of Marine One (not sure what its called when its the former president aboard) leaving with Bush. Didn't know he was in it at the time though.

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    It's so important to you, you can't stop telling yourself and anyone who will read.
    I could...I just don't share your need to see me do it. At all.


    If you ever stopped, I might believe you,
    Oh ...whatever will I do?


    but you can't. There is no way in you could ever stop.
    Of course I could. Believe or not...it makes no difference.

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    Of course it makes no difference to say you can stop anytime you want and then not stop.

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    Of course it makes no difference to say you can stop anytime you want and then not stop.

    It makes no difference for you to say I can't stop...for I'm not going to, whether I can or can't.

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    Of course you can't stop no matter what I say. Thanks for agreeing with me yet again.

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    Of course you can't stop no matter what I say. Thanks for agreeing with me yet again.
    You're very welcome...and someday when I'm feeling generous I might decide to teach you the difference between can't and won't...since the difference between them obviously s you all up.

    And thanks again for saying I agree with you... *chuckle*.

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    You won't because you can't.

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    Does not matter...I'm not.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/..._texas_welcome

    Enthusiastic crowds welcome Bush back to Texas
    WACO, Texas – After an enthusiastic welcome from thousands of cheering Texans in two cities, George W. Bush spent his first night out of office at his Crawford ranch.

    Before flying in a helicopter to his 1,600-acre ranch, the former president told about 3,000 well-wishers gathered at a Waco airfield Tuesday night that he was glad to be back in Texas.

    "It is a great day because we got to come home once and for all," Bush, with former first lady Laura Bush at his side, said as the crowd cheered.

    The supporters, bundled up against 40-degree temperatures, had waited on the tarmac for more than an hour. Many waved red, white and blue cardboard "W"s and small American flags. Dozens of children sat on their parents' shoulders to get a glimpse of Bush, who shook some hands and chatted with some in the crowd after he spoke.

    Bush said he was grateful for his friends in Texas and for the opportunity to serve as president over the last eight years.

    "I come home with my head held high," he said, adding that when he got to his Crawford ranch he would look in the mirror and "be proud of what I see."

    After leaving Washington, D.C., earlier Tuesday, Bush arrived in Midland, where he grew up and where thousands held a send-off rally before his first inauguration.

    In the hours leading up to his return Tuesday, excerpts of some of Bush's speeches played on a large TV screen, including remarks he made to Congress shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

    One little boy waved a sign that read, "President Bush, thank you for keeping me safe" in multicolored lettering. Others read: "Be Bold, Be Bush" and "43 is back."

    "The presidency was a joyous experience, but as great as it was, nothing compares with Texas at sunset," Bush told a crowd of about 25,000. "Tonight I have the privilege of saying six words that I have been waiting to say for a while: It is good to be home."

    Dudley Winn, a cotton farmer on the South Plains of West Texas, drove two hours from Lubbock to greet Bush on his first stop after leaving office.

    "It's a special day but it's a sad day," Winn said. "He's done eight years of a job well done. He held our country together with the values we respect. He did the job we asked him to do. He kept our values safe."

    Bush spoke about the challenges he had faced, saying that even during some of his most difficult days, he "was always optimistic about the future."

    He lauded those who helped throughout his presidency and defended decisions he said some thought unwise.

    "I never took an opinion poll to tell me what to think," Bush said.

    As Bush flew into Midland he wanted to see the gathering from the air. The jet carrying the Bushes and others flew low over downtown so that they could see Centennial Plaza before they landed.

    Bush said that while several former presidents told him they had felt bittersweet about leaving office, "For me, there's nothing to be bitter about. Today is something sweet."

    With Bush at the Midland rally were Karl Rove, former White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolton, Alberto Gonzales, the country's former attorney general and others from his administration. Bush plans to eventually settle in a north Dallas neighborhood.

    Jan Rhodes, a school teacher in Midland, was on hand when Bush left Midland eight years ago for his inauguration and was back Tuesday.

    "We watched for eight years and we're proud of how he served us and how he represented Midland," she said.

    While Bush was born in New Haven, Conn., he spent his childhood in Midland. He returned there as an adult in the 1970s and met the future first lady, who grew up there.

    He called meeting her "more meaningful" in his life than "any meeting in the Oval Office."

    "She filled the White House with warmth and my life with joy," Bush said. "History will show that she was a fabulous first lady."

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    While Bush was born in New Haven, Conn., he spent his childhood in Midland. He returned there as an adult in the 1970s and met the future first lady, who grew up there.

    He called meeting her "more meaningful" in his life than "any meeting in the Oval Office."
    "She filled the White House with warmth and my life with joy," Bush said. "History will show that she was a fabulous first lady."
    That is super sweet.

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    bush!

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    Do you support the death penalty Angel?

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    [QUOTE=angel_luv;3042366]The unpopular in bent and Obama, who has ascended to rock-star status even as he faces daunting and international challengesQUOTE]

    Never have I read a truer statement. Supporters and haters alike must agree that a.) many people disapproved of how Bush did and b.) Obama is a celebrity.

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    I got pictures of Marine One (not sure what its called when its the former president aboard) leaving with Bush. Didn't know he was in it at the time though.


    Well are you going to post them so we can see them dude?

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    No offense to the OP, but I don't want to hear any more about GWB, pro or con.


    For Obama sakes, let the man go be a fake rancher.

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    For Obama sakes, let the man go be a fake rancher.

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    Ha ha. Good call. I love that video.


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