Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 53
  1. #26
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    Kobe is clearly more skilled in nearly every aspect of the game. He doesn't have the insane athleticism to dominate the game the way LBJ does.

    I do know this though, unless Lebron seriously devotes the time to improving his game he will see a major drop off in production when his athleticism declines.

  2. #27
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    59,905
    Kobe is clearly more skilled in nearly every aspect of the game. He doesn't have the insane athleticism to dominate the game the way LBJ does.

    I do know this though, unless Lebron seriously devotes the time to improving his game he will see a major drop off in production when his athleticism declines.
    Insecure much?

  3. #28
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    ^Hater. 4-1. It hurts, I know.

  4. #29
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    59,905
    I canth tolk righ now I ga Kope's junk inmy mouf

  5. #30
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Post Count
    22,198
    Kobe is clearly more skilled in nearly every aspect of the game. He doesn't have the insane athleticism to dominate the game the way LBJ does.

    I do know this though, unless Lebron seriously devotes the time to improving his game he will see a major drop off in production when his athleticism declines.
    Thing is LeBron's athleticism might not start to decline for another 12 years or so.

  6. #31
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    Thing is LeBron's athleticism might not start to decline for another 12 years or so.
    True dat.

    He's built like a tank. But you never know, with the way he plays he's a little more susceptible to getting hurt than most players. Kind of like D-Wade.

  7. #32
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Post Count
    22,198
    There's every indication that LeBron will continue to improve in the skills department. And, it's not like he's devoid of elite skill already. The only things he really can improve greatly on are his perimeter jumper (which has improved) and his defense (which has improved).

  8. #33
    Believe. debo's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    345
    Kobe is clearly more skilled in nearly every aspect of the game.
    i disagree

  9. #34
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    There's every indication that LeBron will continue to improve in the skills department. And, it's not like he's devoid of elite skill already. The only things he really can improve greatly on are his perimeter jumper (which has improved) and his defense (which has improved).
    Jumpshooting, post up game, free throws. 3 sizeable holes in Lebron's game IMHO.

  10. #35
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    of course you would. you're a spurs fan.

  11. #36
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    9,801
    I'll take Bron is a heartbeat.

  12. #37
    DEEP in the Q
    My Team
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Post Count
    2,523
    There's every indication that LeBron will continue to improve in the skills department. And, it's not like he's devoid of elite skill already. The only things he really can improve greatly on are his perimeter jumper (which has improved) and his defense (which has improved).
    The thing about his jumper is that everyone knows what he does wrong (coaches, analysts, fans) except he just can't seem to fix the bad habits. He has improved to where his shot with set feet is pretty good. It is very streaky. He does put alot of work into improving his game and is still maturing.

  13. #38
    DEEP in the Q
    My Team
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Post Count
    2,523
    Kobe is clearly more skilled in nearly every aspect of the game. He doesn't have the insane athleticism to dominate the game the way LBJ does.

    I do know this though, unless Lebron seriously devotes the time to improving his game he will see a major drop off in production when his athleticism declines.
    A major drop off in his scoring production maybe. He won't lose his court vision and passing ability. He could devote a couple of more summers to his post game and become a back to basket foward in his 30's.

  14. #39
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Post Count
    22,198
    Jumpshooting, post up game, free throws. 3 sizeable holes in Lebron's game IMHO.
    A post game he will develop. Jordan didn't develop his mid-post game until several years into his career as well. KG and David Robinson never developed a post game and those two played power forward and center. LeBron is a perimeter player. Not having a well developed post game won't hurt him unless he can't drive to the basket anymore, which again likely won't happen for many, many seasons.

    As far as his free throw shooting, you talk as if he's a 50% free throw shooter. He shoots 78% from the free throw line. Sure, he's had several moments where he's missed key free throws late in games. But, he's not a bad free throw shooter. Again, he's improved in that area.

    And, he's improved with his overall jump shooting as well.

    Your criticisms stink more of hate than actual legitimate criticisms.

  15. #40
    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
    My Team
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Post Count
    5,378
    Jumpshooting, post up game, free throws. 3 sizeable holes in Lebron's game IMHO.
    Post-up game? He's a perimeter player. A post-up game is a luxury for him at this point, not a requirement. Would you penalize any other perimeter player in the league for not having a post game?

  16. #41
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    12,224
    All of the great players have a post-up game. LeBron will just have to develop it. Even DWade has a better post up at this point.

    There's really no reason for him not to have a post-up game, he's still maturing into it.

  17. #42
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    Post-up game? He's a perimeter player. A post-up game is a luxury for him at this point, not a requirement. Would you penalize any other perimeter player in the league for not having a post game?
    Lebron isn't any other perimeter player though. He's being compared with Kobe and MJ, not Grant Hill.

    Lebron doesn't have a great shooting touch. He doesn't instill confidence when he shoots jumpers or free throws. You can foul him in the closing seconds knowing there is a good chance he misses at least one free throw. I just don't think you can say the same about Kobe and MJ.

    And both Kobe and MJ shot over 80% from the FT line early in their careers. The shooting touch was always there, just never fully developed until it needed to be. Lebron came into the league shooting 75% from the line and managed to shoot worse for the next 3 seasons going as low as 69% one season. All signs point to him never having a great shooting touch at any point in his career. Can he improve? Of course, but don't expect him to be anything like MJ or Kobe from midrange.

  18. #43
    In Limbo mardigan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    9,801
    Lebron isn't any other perimeter player though. He's being compared with Kobe and MJ, not Grant Hill.

    Lebron doesn't have a great shooting touch. He doesn't instill confidence when he shoots jumpers or free throws. You can foul him in the closing seconds knowing there is a good chance he misses at least one free throw. I just don't think you can say the same about Kobe and MJ.

    And both Kobe and MJ shot over 80% from the FT line early in their careers. The shooting touch was always there, just never fully developed until it needed to be. Lebron came into the league shooting 75% from the line and managed to shoot worse for the next 3 seasons going as low as 69% one season. All signs point to him never having a great shooting touch at any point in his career. Can he improve? Of course, but don't expect him to be anything like MJ or Kobe from midrange.
    I think your forgetting his age here. Dude's only like 24, he still has plenty of time to develop. Plus, he doesnt need to score chingos of points to help his team win a game, he can take over a game just assisting and rebounding. Plus, his defense has gotten better and better since he came into this league. He got the one of the worse constructed teams I have ever seen into the Finals. I think you might be selling him a little short.

  19. #44
    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,976
    I think your forgetting his age here. Dude's only like 24, he still has plenty of time to develop. Plus, he doesnt need to score chingos of points to help his team win a game, he can take over a game just assisting and rebounding. Plus, his defense has gotten better and better since he came into this league. He got the one of the worse constructed teams I have ever seen into the Finals. I think you might be selling him a little short.
    His defense is phenomenal and the part of his game that I appreciate the most. He can be an absolute terror on the defensive end in ways not even MJ could have dreamed about.

    I could very well be wrong, I acknowledge that. My gut tells me Lebron will never be a great shooter though. As it stands he doesn't need to be to impact the game. He's that damn good.

  20. #45
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    97,883
    I've never watched him, but couldn't Wade resemble Alex English?
    English was a very good player, but a lot of those numbers were a product of the system he played in. I watched English for years, and he wasn't half the player Wade is. Wade is way more athletic and much better at getting to the rim, not to mention he is a better defender also.

  21. #46
    Believe.
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    13
    The left hand and jumper that leads to Kobe shooting his team out of games, deflates Kobe as well.

    quite possibly your worse argument ever.(him having that ablity is not what causes him to shoot his team out of games...and he has kept his team in more games than he has shot them out of) You are as touchy about lebron (or any player you love) as laker fans are about kobe. I clearly said there is no clear cut best (and i am a kobe fan, laker fan first but still a kobe fan) but why I would choose kobe. I didnt say that should be anyone elses choice. Guess what though....Im not crazy! I would not be in the least disappointed if bron was on my team.

  22. #47
    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
    My Team
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Post Count
    5,378
    Lebron doesn't have a great shooting touch. He doesn't instill confidence when he shoots jumpers or free throws. You can foul him in the closing seconds knowing there is a good chance he misses at least one free throw. I just don't think you can say the same about Kobe and MJ.
    I'm not going to argue that LeBron doesn't have a great shooting touch. I personally don't think he's ever going to really be deadly as a shooter, just a streak guy. But you're overstating his problems at the free-throw line. He was an 80% FT shooter in high school at SV-SM. He'll have his 6-for-14 nights every now and again, but he's never hurt us in big games/playoff games at the line. He's underachieved in that area early in his career, he can be frustrating as at times, but he isn't Nick Anderson post-'95 Finals or anything like that.

  23. #48
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    9,853
    I'm not going to argue that LeBron doesn't have a great shooting touch. I personally don't think he's ever going to really be deadly as a shooter, just a streak guy. But you're overstating his problems at the free-throw line. He was an 80% FT shooter in high school at SV-SM. He'll have his 6-for-14 nights every now and again, but he's never hurt us in big games/playoff games at the line. He's underachieved in that area early in his career, he can be frustrating as at times, but he isn't Nick Anderson post-'95 Finals or anything like that.
    Just hope he develops it or you'll have nights (like last night) where refs wont blow every whistle and all he is depending on is his freight train move to the basket hoping for a foul. He's gonna have to learn to adjust as the game goes on.

  24. #49
    Thank you, Tim Duncan! peskypesky's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    8,747
    Just hope he develops it or you'll have nights (like last night) where refs wont blow every whistle and all he is depending on is his freight train/crab dribble move to the basket hoping for a foul.
    fixed

  25. #50
    Believe.
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    13
    Post-up game? He's a perimeter player. A post-up game is a luxury for him at this point, not a requirement. Would you penalize any other perimeter player in the league for not having a post game?

    your statement is somewhat true, but if lebron could have used the triple threat position last year (1 third of that post up) then the celts would not have been NBA champs last year.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •