Kitzmiller vs Dover Area School District 2005
Holding: "Teaching intelligent design in public school biology classes violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Cons ution of the United States (and Article I, Section 3 of the Pennsylvania State Cons ution) because intelligent design is not science and "cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmil...chool_District
Eh...and that's probably accurate too. It's difficult to ask people to consider what is admittedly a supernatural event and offer it as a natural, scientific event.
Doesn't make it less likely that it happened that way, just impossible to prove because scientifically because it is not repeatable.
With all due respect.... I don't see the difference; the subject of origins (cosmic, physical, biological, etc...) cannot be classified as science in any arena. Most of the Scientific world inherently classifies Intelligent Design as psuedoscience on that basis, but they fail to see the similarities with statements that declare as much emanating from their own camps.
I am glad you asked.
It says that God is not some distant designer who makes us and then loses interest.
On the contrary, He is an ever present Father, who genuinely delights in the company of we His children.
God created you just as you are and with a you-specific purpose.
Your intelligence, personality, and talents are all God given.
God delights both in you as a person and in all you do with your giftings to positively impact people and situations.
Each of us is God's purposeful blessing to the world.
Through Jesus and only through Jesus is all our greatest potential reached.
If you understood, really understood, how completely Jesus loves you, you would love Him back.
When people are sick, they go to a doctor, right?
People know they have a need and they have entrusted their well being into their doctor's care and so follow the prescription he gives them.
I know in a broad sense what antibotics are but I am not nearly as educated about medicine as a doctor is, so I choose to yield to what I believe is his better judgment.
It is the same way for me with Jesus. Only God knows the end from the beginning and the heart and intents of all men.
There is much in and about the world which I do not understand, but I have faith and am confident in entrusting my life (yielding myself) to Jesus.
I know Jesus has the answers and will always guide me in the most prosperous direction.
anyone else wanna take this one?
Jesus said: "I am the light of the world. If you follow Me, you won’t have to walk in darkness, because you will have the light that leads to life.” (John 8:12)
Cmon, really?
The All Powerful Omniscent Force that has the ability to create universes so large that the speed of light is entirely too slow for we small denizens of Earth to see further than ~13 billion years into the past, has somehow taken a real interest in what we are doing?
Does that not strike you as egotism? So, lets consider this for moment.
What if other life is discovered? Maybe its the methane on Mars, and we find some sort of bacteria (or whatever).
Thats a planet that is less than a nanometer away in universal terms. It could be logically assumed life is not only somewhere else, but that it is quite abundant, and that one day, we might even consider life a natural progression of developed, atmospheric planets.
Ive never really thought of God as the precursor of Johnny Appleseed, but whatever floats your boat.
Is there a God? Dont know, will know soon enough. I certainly dont begrudge people who fervently believe (anymore).
But passing off religious texts as fact, or even that they closely resemble fact or science, in an attempt to downgrade science's purview into the nature of the universe is something I hold in contempt.
The universe is expanding. It has a center. The exact physics required to explain these two facts is something humanity has not reached (yet). It is highly unlikely anyone here will see that day, but that day will come (if we, God's children, dont kill ourselves before then).
I know youre a good Christian and a very sweet person with nothing but the best intentions, but could I suggest not bringing passages of the Bible into these sort of conversations?
They dont apply or have any sort of argumentative value in that most who disagree with "God created everything" hold contempt for that specific text.
If anything, youre just perpetuating a stereotype.
Take the advice for what it is, but I certainly am not trying to be mean in any way.
About that last verse I posted, I subscribe to an "encouraging verse of the day" e-mail .
After posting my doctor themed post...
I went to my e-mail inbox and found the Scripture e-mail with the John 8:12 verse there.
I know many of you will call that a coincidence.
But I know that Jesus, knowing I was going to be in conversation with Blake this afternoon, led the e-mail publisher to use a verse that I would find especially encouraging today.
It's a tangible testament to what I said earlier: God is indeed a loving Father who cares and that Jesus is an ever present help.
so basically you are saying that searching for truth in the universe is a waste of time because all we have to do is trust in Christ to provide.
hmm....You are obviously not Amish since you are using the internet.....
be sure to tell your local researcher thanks for not listening to you
I am saying that God is a good God who always provides for me. This time He used the internet.
If next time God wants to send me a verse via a messenger pigeon, I gratefully receive it that way too.
so did God create the internet or did man (Gore)?
All man accomplishes is due to the intelligence which God has invested in us.
So with the internet, and everything else, man can be credited for using the brains that God gave him.
Of course, men can misuse their God given intelligence and through free will choose to do evil. The internet is a great example of that.
now I forgot what we were discussing
thanks God
While I have your attention, Blake, I like your new avatar. Very clever.
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