i'm not worried (yet)
Finley D is not so bad, it's a team issue not a specific one related to bonner and finley.
There are no excuses but : we have played w/o Manu during long months, tp has been hurt, the spurs give a lot minutes for 2 new guys Hill and Mase, Bonner has consistent minutes since the beginning of the season, physically they are not at their pick (see TP) and Bruce is playing 10 mpg vs. 20 last year (not checked the stat but I think the proportion is correct)... no surprises so far.
Im pretty sure our bad defense has some todo with our roster. But, mostly it has everything todo with the amount of talent the NBA has. And when you wear a Jersey that has Spur on it. Your gonna bring out the best in every team and player. I honestly dont think Pop is surprised. He had to have known this in last seasons POs. And, when they did nothing to address it this summer.
Remember when "suck" used to be a dirty word. I had a friend who got grounded for saying it in front of his mother. Am I showing my age?
I don't what team you're watching, or if you are, but Finley is just plain awful. He's getting beaten like a Rented Mule on the regular.
Since many trips down the floor, how offense is played predicates how your defense will be set up on a miss, perhaps Lord Poppy will offer an evaluation of his offense. Whatever the that offense is.
Example, when a Spur shoots a trey, esp early in the clock and while no other player is set up to board, (see Mike Finley, altho in no way shape or form limited to Finley), it allows the other team to garner the O rebound and pretty much get a good if not great running start in transition up the court. Since under Pops direction we have become a wussy 3 pt chucking team, what does he have to say about that.
He's won 4 les you know.
And look at the offensive powerhouses those 4 came against.
NYKnicks snooze.
Jersey snooze
Pistons (well, they did play good D)
Cavs snooze
Great D or vs 3 of 4 Snoozers on offense?
Assowned by Phil 4-1.
I didn't say that Fin D was decent : I agree his D is below average.
My point is Bonner and Finley are the scapegoats but the lack of D is a team issue.
Parker while great on offense has been getting burned on a regular basis. The comment about Bonner D is to outscore the opponent could apply to Tony, as well.
I'm not worried..
like timvp said, this is nothing new at this point of the season..
it's all about focus, combined with Duncan and Bowen IMO..as I've said in other threads..we're 10-1 when Bowen plays 25 minutes or more..the 7-game stretch where we were dominant defensively(w/o TP and Manu) was a desperation stretch, and a time where Bowen averaged 25 MPG..
we have a great coach that recognized the problem, and he'll surely do something about it..he's a defensive coach..we still have the same system, I'm not worried..
we have the 2nd best record in the West, despite major injuries for a long period of time, and despite the fact that we are still lacking defensive chemistry, which is something we always develop post-rodeo..this team should get it together, and when they do, we're going to be scary..
Oh, yes he is. Finley's defense is beyond terrible. You are correct in that collectively, they all need to get better as a team. The defensive mindset is not present for the entire game - even from Duncan at times. They play defense in stretches or in games when after they've been embarrassed.
However in the cases of Finley and Bonner, they are not just two of the worst defenders in the starting five, they are two of the worst defenders on the entire team.
We're at the halfpoint of the season. Most teams have played over 40 games. The ASG is more than halfway through the season.
Well it seems that he made a pretty decent job against Granger even Pop gave his props.
I don't believe he became a good defender last night but if the whole team is concerned by D and gives the good D helps, he is not so bad after all.
I am not too excited about last night's D. It was good, but the Pacers were on a 2nd of a back to back. They could have been tired. I think the result from last nights game was a mix of good Spurs defense and the Pacers being tired.
spurs were on their 4th game in 5 days. being able to put up such an effort at the tail end of that is impressive.
True m33Po. I didn't take that into consideration.
Um, what?
The Spurs' philosophy on transition defense has been to only have their bigs crash the boards on offense and keep their guards back to prevent easy fast-break attempts.
Are you actually trying to argue that sending the entire team to go for the offensive rebound will prevent opposing teams' fast break attempts?
In fact, what the heck are you trying to say? This makes little sense, if any.
4-1, GOT!!!
In spite of that atrocious defensive FG % I think the Spurs are still 6th or 7th in points allowed per 100 possessions, which is solid... although they were 1st every year they won it all I believe.
we are now ranked 5th defensively after these last 3 games..before that, we were ranked 8th..
Good point. I think that may have to do with Spurs not fouling much. Duncan cant afford to alter or challange as many shots as he would like with the lack of shot blocking, and real bigs behind him.
Instead, easier shots are given up rather than sending the opposition to the foul line more often, which impacts the stats.
Points per 100 possessions is a better indicator of Defense. Still, if the Spurs want to contend, they have to move into the top 2 or 3 in that category.
One game does not a season make.
I'm still waiting on who you would rather coach the team instead of Pop.
Heaven forbid you give props to Michael Finley.
Heaven forbid ANYONE does.
To which anakha responded:Originally Posted by Fabbs
Assowned by Phil 4-1.
Could we have this put in the "classic" threads dept?
Nice self ownage anakha
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