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The President's salary is determined by Congress (3 USC s. 102). Obama can't do anything about changing what he is paid; only Congress can do that. The salaries of his staff are a matter of executive branch budgeting, which is, therefore, within the power of the President.
Wild Cobra is basically ridiculing Obama for adhering to the law.
You are truly a beautiful person. Thank you for making the world a better place.
Oh, you and your "facts" and "logic" and "law" . . . always getting in the way of a Limbaugh-esque argument.
Damn him and his non-kneejerk reactions to things!
Do you also think it's sad that people would rather pay $100 to go to a basketball game instead of buying a $5 meal for a homeless person?
Actually, I'm ridiculing the Idea that these salary cuts do anything important. It's a joke. Do we really want to cut peoples wages when we want them to spend more and grow the economy?
You want his staff to all get raises?
I don't care if they do or not actually. All the pay freeze does is pander to the ignorant in my view. Besides, when based on COLA, they wouldn't be much anyway this year.
I never read the announcement. Does it say when it starts and ends? Anyone? Could it be there wouldn't be a pay increase for the next cycle anyway due to the lack of economic growth?
Which is why you are chiming in here.
I never read the announcement
People take White House jobs for the money?
They get a pension that increases annually for the rest of their lives....W's pension will start at 200k per year.
They also get the offices of their choice paid for.
I believe they get paid travel expenses(and transportation), a full staff, and a secret service squad for the rest of their lives.
I don't think the secret service protection is negotiable either.
2 term Presidents get full health care for the rest of their lives...1 term Presidents do not.
They added most of this stuff(like the pension) in the late 50's after a couple of ex Presidents strugged financially after leaving office.
Basically, they'll never be des ute, homeless or unprotected and thus an embarrasment to the country.
Add it all up and it's basically the same thing as being filthy rich even though the pure dollar amount in their pension isn't that great to begin with.
I believe they also get a nice house out of the deal if they want but I'm not absolutely certain.
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Bush II is the first ex-president who doesn't get secret service for the rest of his life. Only 10 years.
I heard it ended with Clinton, but you could be right.
And ironically enough, W is the President that will likely need that protection the most for the rest of his life.
I have a feeling he can afford the henchmen. He'll be what, 73 by then?
I'll go out on a limb and predict he'll not be killed. He'll be allowed to vanish into the obscurity and irrelevance that await all politicians at the end of their service. He'll enjoy it, and so will America.
Without a doubt, he will never be obscure or forgotten to Saddam's relatives, descendants and loyalists. They will want his death...and he won't be just another ex-President to them.
And they will fail. They'll never get near him.
10 years? As much as I can't stand Bush, it would be devastating to the nation to lose a president.
If evident threats against Bush persist, perhaps a special appropriation can be made to provide a security detail for his dotage. You reap what you sow.
I haven't heard Bush say word one about it yet.
Yeah but the point is, he's not just going to have some deranged local fantatic or pissed off Democrat wanting to kill him
He's got blood enemies from a royal family and an entire political movement and is viewed as directly responsible for the death of their leader and their fall from power, from a culture whose creed is an eye for an eye. And they aren't noted for the ease with which they forgive, or forget, either.
He doesn't just have the typical hazzards of an ex-President...he's got a group of commited and unforgiving people with most likely a great deal of money still...wanting to kill him, and he will for the rest of his life.
So I don't think his sitution is typical of the average President...I think the threats to his life are greater and much more real, which is why it's ironic that he won't have the same security.
The war was catastrophic for Iraq. And it was totally unnecessary at the time we undertook it. Saddam wasn't going to live forever.
And his political party might not have outlasted him.
Like Fidel Castro in Cuba. Without the anchor, the movement will drift away.
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