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Will anyone pull off a Memphis / Pau Gasol move for us?
There is no way the Spurs trade George Hill. I'd love to see Lee in a Spurs uniform, but not if we have to give up Hill. There is a reason the Spurs drafted him and are playing him ahead of Vaughn, he's a good player, and he's only going to get better. Now, if some other team offers him a deal the Spurs can't match when his rookie contract is done, then so be it, but if he continues to mature and improve, he will be in SA for a long time.
Will anyone pull off a Memphis / Pau Gasol move for us?
an idea for trading hill is just not too bright. the spurs have spent 5 years looking for a pg to backup parker and they finally found one. the backup pg position was way more important than acquiring a capable big. now that the spurs finally found a reliable one and you want to trade him?? guess who will be left when the spurs trade hill? that's right. jacque vaughn.
of course the Spurs could somehow assemble a package that would make the numbers work.
(like Matt, Fab, Fin, JV for Miller, Brown, Douby)
would it make us better? I doubt it. Miller is now a below average rebounder for his size, in fact his production on the board is lower than Matt's per minute. shot blocking also isn't a factor. for most opponents he is meanwhile to slow, we already have a big who struggles against faster opponents in KT.
Miller still is a nice offensive player though, combined with his fantastic passing ability he would help in some scenarios. team even less can double Tim, because Miller still can get his 20+ on any given night. if they don't double Tim, he will find and feed him.
however, I'm not sure that overall his impact would be enough. I fear many opponents will just beat us with faster line ups.
They got Roger, and everyone is acting like Hill is the next Jordon. If we could get a big, Id ship Hill in a second. Its good Bigs that are hard to find, not little guys. And Hill isnt a point, hes a learning point. I like Hill, but if we get the chance to find a starting big? Dont let the door hit on the way out.....Come crunch time who do you think will be running the team in the POs, when TP is resting? Maybe Roger, maybe Manu. I doubt Hill will be. And just about anyone in the NBA would have JV sitting.
Exactly. It's all bull .
This thread is just a fantasy jerkoff, which is fine, but let's recognise it as such.
Maybe ST needs a fantasy jerkoff trade forum for all these untenable ideas?
anyway, it won't happen, but i can't believe some people would be reluctant to give Hill in order to have D.Lee. some members are just amazing. we're talking about a solid PG backup, who will never be a starter for the spurs on one side and a 15 pts-11.5 rbs- 57 % FG player on the other side. come on.
Have to disagree with you on this one. Hill just got here. He's already a productive part of the rotation and has a bright future. I know he's still learning the position, but he's progressing quite nicely and would be sought-after by some NBA teams. However, sacrificing Hill in any trade to get Lee only puts the Spurs back in the situation they were in last year - no plausible answer at backup PG.
It's never a good strategy to fill one need, by creating another one. Unless you want to go back to JV as backup PG, the Spurs will have to dream up some other sceanario. I love David Lee too and wish there was a way for the Spurs to obtain him. They just don't have enough assets. Besides it's a moot point anyway. Pop is much too fond of Hill to ever sacrifice him in any trade.
David Lee would be a good get
Are you kidding me? You say Hill is a learning point guard. I say this "learning point guard" is better than any other option that is on the team right now. Mason is not a point guard. Hill is more of a PG than Mason is. And do you seriously expect a rookie PG to be running the team in crunch time? Of course Pop would have Manu or Mason running the team, they're more experienced.
Hill has so much upside, and in my opinion he is doing a pretty damn good job for a guy that no one expected anything from. He's doing a good job at "learning", and he's only going to get better. David Lee is a beast, but no way they give up Hill for him.
Don't bother responding to him. Its like trying to discuss trade ideas with my 9yr old daughter who is into High School Musical and Webkins.
Why would you trade Hill, a player with so much upside, AND seems to be a true Spur? And I don't care about Tiago anymore, but i don't want to about another Scola deal a few years from now. Fin, Udoka, Fab, and Vaughn are all expendable, and all players would take since they're all off the books in 2010, just like NY wants.
I'm all for this idea. Posts with the following subjects should automatically be moved:Exactly. It's all bull .
This thread is just a fantasy jerkoff, which is fine, but let's recognise it as such.
Maybe ST needs a fantasy jerkoff trade forum for all these untenable ideas?
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how about this
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"so and so player" to SPURS
vaugh, bonner idea
mahinmi, splitter idea
what do you think
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Giving up George Hill to get David Lee is a NO BRAINER! Lee has only been in the league a few years now and has a long career of kicking ass ahead of him. Hill is a nice backup pointguard with lots of upside. Backup PG's are all over the league. David Lee would change the team for the better in a whole lotta ways.
Uh, guys Mourning just retired. Is there a way to get him out of retirement and play for us? Would he supply the need we're looking for or he's really out of gas?
I would rather go after Marcus Camby than Brad Miller!!! It is 6 million dollars cheaper and Camby is 50 times better than him!!!
Lee would be fantastic, but I don't think the Spurs being able to offer the Knicks would want. I'm sure the Knicks could get a pretty decent player for Lee. That being said, I'd trade Bonner for Lee in a heartbeat.
Brad Miller $11,375,000 $12,250,000I would rather go after Marcus Camby than Brad Miller!!! It is 6 million dollars cheaper and Camby is 50 times better than him!!!
Marcus Camby $10,000,000 $9,650,000
I wonder if we offered anything to the Knicks for Lee......like maybe the Beno Exemption + a player or pick.....
I really do wish we had him on our team.
Wouldn't the Spurs rather have Rasho than Brad?
And yet people continue to add posts saying things like "I wish we had David Lee"... NO SHERLOCK! And I wish I could solve the looming world energy and climate crises, but it ain't going to happen. You think NY are going to give away their best big for JV and a bag of corn chips???
Miller's salary is out of the question. Lee is another story. Playing in D'Antoni's system this year has probably inflated his numbers a little bit, but he's been a pretty consistent producer and he gets to the line with some regularity. He could definitely contribute - I don't know what we could offer the Knicks that they would accept.
There was a lot of talk that the Knicks were going to have a fire sale on Lee because they are totally focused on clearing cap space, and they won't be willing to pay him what he will command after this season. They got a couple of offers, but turned them down, so they were obviously not willing to give him away. And that was before he turned into a walking double-double this season, so his stock has gone up. On top of that, the fans are nuts about him, and the concensus is that if Donnie Walsh trades him he will have to start scanning his mail for letter bombs.
I don't think the Knicks are going to let him go at all. There is too much interest in him now for them to let him go cheap.
They would if Isaiah Thomas were still their GM.
And yet people continue to add posts saying things like "I wish we had David Lee"... NO SHERLOCK! And I wish I could solve the looming world energy and climate crises, but it ain't going to happen. You think NY are going to give away their best big for JV and a bag of corn chips???
Hill for Lee is absolutely a no-brainer. I love Hill, I think he is absolutely a stud with a of a future ahead of him. But with Tony Parker on the Spurs, Hill will never be able to play the minutes he is good enough to earn. This is practically Tony's team now, and having a good backup for him is imperative. But getting a starting 4/5 to put next to Duncan is so much more important than a guy who will never give us more than a dozen + minutes a night.
Lee is a starter, he's a monster on the boards. He is the quicker player to put next to Duncan that can actually rebound. Lee would provide a much needed 30 minutes a game and that is more important than finding someone who can bring the ball up the floor for 15 minutes a game.
It is precisely why we like Hill so much that he could tempt New York into actually biting on this trade.
They did it in 05 didn't they?
And yet people continue to add posts saying things like "I wish we had David Lee"... NO SHERLOCK! And I wish I could solve the looming world energy and climate crises, but it ain't going to happen. You think NY are going to give away their best big for JV and a bag of corn chips???
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