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I don't know how much leeway San Quentin prisoners have. I doubt it's less leeway than GTMO prisoners though.
Hmm...
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/001006.html
Indeed it is.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it.
I don't know how much leeway San Quentin prisoners have. I doubt it's less leeway than GTMO prisoners though.
of course you do Manny! you will agree with ANYTHING Obama says or does because you worship the man. not his politics, but the man himself.
I (obviously) didnt know that either.
lets just send them all to Egypt I am sure the prisons there are better suited for torture... or I am sure the general population in huntsville will enjoy having these high profile guest....
If you send these prisoners to a normal, non-federal prisons, or even worse to a federal prison, they wont last a week.
I'm not sure what prompted this to be so vile, but come on. Don't go around wishing death/injury to people. I know I let people go wild in the Political Forum most of the time but even if this were in jest, it's not appropriate.
I know you are a good guy. So don't let people get to you so much that you stoop so low.
Thanks.
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that would be much more appropriate.
Trying to rationalize with crazy people sometimes will make you crazy yourself.
To be fair, Glenn Greenwald has written an article that shows how other terrorists are located in prisons right now.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
yeah, I don't take so well to being considered a second class human being, which is pretty much what Crookshanks was implying with this little gem
Plus, minus the profanity, her post wasn't much different than mineThese are NOT American citizens! They are not en led to the same protections afforded us under the cons ution.
that is not exactly well wishes and happy thoughts. Just that she's talking about people whose name she doesn't know.I don't care what they do to them - I wouldn't be sad if an "accident" happened at Gitmo and all of the detainees died
Having said that, I appologize to you or anyone else that was offended. I don't usually go overboard, but this amount of willfull ignorance really pisses me off. Couple that with arrogance and you've got a molotov tail that pushes all the right buttons.
Again, my appologies if anyone (other than Crookshanks) was offended.
P.S. I don't really wish her to die, just that she'd get some sense knocked into that airhead of hers.
so where are they going to serve meat sandwiches to Terrorist suspects????
Take two -- please.
that croockshank deserves to eat meat sandwiches everyday of his life!
maybe she does.
Bush was in office for 8 years, it's ridiculous and UNCONS UTIONAL that there are people being held there for most of that time, without access to a lawyer or being charged with anything.
Obama isn't closing Gitmo tomorrow. A year is plenty of time to make a decision about each and every person in there. Some will be released, but some may be prosecuted, and this will expedite the process of that prosecution.
Naomi Wolf wrote about how one of the ten key indicators a democracy is being closed down (what she refers to as a "fascist shift") are secret prisons, which are outside the rule of law. I agree with what others on this board have said - if stopping terrorism means destroying the free and open society we have, then the terrorists have already won. Obama is a cons utional scholar - this is what we elected him for. To restore the tenets of the cons ution.
So why is Obama the cons utional scholar tolerating another year of uncons utional detention? If he really cared about the Cons ution, wouldn't he have closed Gitmo on Tuesday?
Again, I'd like to appologize to anyone that got offended by my little tirade there. I just get sick and tired of some people in here believing that human rights are solely an American commodity.
You guys will never learn and you'll never change. You are mean, hateful people who can't stand that someone has a different viewpoint. I've had it with all of you! I come from a generation where that type of language was NEVER used in public, and especially if there were women present. Shame on all of you.
This younger generation has no respect and no self restraint. You think you should be able to say whatever you want to whoever you want. Oh - and we're supposed to feel kindness towards the terrorist who seek to destroy this country; but it's open season to express any and all vile, hateful and obscene remarks to christians.
Kori tried to gently chide you - but you just don't get it. And that apology wasn't worth anything! You all can just have your hatefest - but there's one less christian to kick around.
it takes time to clean up somebody else's mess
that is the problem with old folk. they think their old ways of thinking don't seriously offend ppl .
When you say, "those ppl probably live better in guantanamo than in their countries" that offends ppl. But you don't give a
when you say, "even those innocent ppl are probaly guilty, but no evidence" that offends ppll. that is truly an ignorant statement and hurtful to ppl and family of innocents who have been tortured.
so who is truly the most offensive poster in this thread? I say crookshank
ok, let me be perfectly clear about this. My appology was directed primarily at Kori. I have enormous respect for what she does and how she does it. Secondly, I was appologizing to anyone else that might have been offended because if I'm being honest, I did go overboard and that was vile language.
HOWEVER, and this is a big however, at no point was I appologizing to you. I could give a rats ass whether you're offended or not. You ask for civility in language but don't give a about the hatefull content that you spew around here on a daily basis. You want people to respect your point of view, try and EVOLVE a little then.
You should know that even though my appology was not directed at you, I did not in any way mean what I said about wishing you dead. It was a bull rant out of anger, and it holds no meaning or purpose other than to blow steam.
Every other thing I said about you though, I meant.
GUANTANAMO BAY: A BRIEF SKETCH
Starring:
Khalid
Mahmoud
Lieutenant
Elderly American Fundamentalist Christian Woman
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(Opening scene: Afghan countryside)
Khalid: Oh, I am a simple goat herder! I surely love my wife and children! I shall herd with all my might in this rugged countryside!
Mahmoud: Hmm... I am jealous of Khalid's goat pasture. I want it for my goats. My pasture is poor and rocky. His is full of grass.
(American humvee motors by)
Mahmoud: I have an idea!
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(Two days later, in a dimly lit filthy room)
Khalid: AIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME!!!!!!!
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(One week later, Afghan countryside)
Afghan guy: My goats are well-fed and happy! I am rich!
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(Two years later, someplace in Cuba)
Khalid: AIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
(Door opens and slams)
Lieutenant: Remove the hot poker from the prisoner at once! Turns out he's innocent. Send him back to his cell. We will process his release papers.
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(One month later, Texas)
(Elderly American Fundamentalist Christian Woman reading newspaper at home)
Elderly American Fundamentalist Christian Woman: This is terrible! Why are they releasing terrorists?! If they don't have any evidence, they're probably still guilty! I mean, look at them! I hope these s die! Oh, look at the clock, time for bible study.
THE END
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