I know, but it's no different than Jehovah's Witnesses or any other typical cult. I could care less what they try to say about Christianity. The difference with Scientology is that it hurts people, and even worse, kills people who try to get out of the religion. It needs to be revoked of it's tax exempt status and investigated by the FBI.
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Actually I'm prettu sure Larry H. Miller didn't even donate to the cause. I saw the google map of donors the other day and I'm almost certain he wasn't on it.
But like I said, it's trivial tyranny that's the worst. He banned Brokeback from his line of theaters. Which is his right as the proprietor. But honestly, how much more petty and childish could you get in the name of a bigoted cause?
Hey, it's legal in their country, and we are asshats and bigots if we criticize the free exercise of their religious beliefs. I feel like all I'm doing is calling a spade a spade.
Yeah, unless it was voluntary. I don't have a problem with people who practice SM.
If it isn't voluntary, then I have a problem - as it is a violation of the natural rights of another person.
The Mormon Church was one of the biggest bankrollers of Prop 8. Even if he didn't donate directly, I'm sure he has given plenty of money to the Mormon church and was fully supportive of their efforts on behalf of Prop 8.
No kidding. Thanks for the links.
imo, there are a lot of more important issues for conservatives to be worried about than gay marriage. Do I like it? not really. do I really give a ? not really.
-Mars
np, I'm going to do a speech on it in my communications class soon, information is power. and scary as .
Yeah. Absolutely.
Like i said in the Prop 8 thread back in Nov. If you're pro gay marriage than you're also pro intermarriage. Because everything you could say about gay marriage can be used to argue for sibling marriage as long as one of the two siblings are incapable of reproduction
"But why would a sibling marry a sibling" Insurance fraud is always a good reason.
Incest is a crime. sexuality is not.
If people want to forge iden ies and commit insurance fraud, they can do that already. That's no reason to deny gays the same benefits of marriage as heterosexuals."But why would a sibling marry a sibling" Insurance fraud is always a good reason
That's really all that one can ask of you. You don't have to like certain things if it offends your sensibilities, but live and let live.
Why is incest a crime? Why shouldn't siblings be allowed to marry? Are they hurting anyone's rights by marrying?
Incest is a crime because the baby can grow up being all ed up, like i said if one of the two is incapable of reproducing be it surgical, natural or even if they are the same sex, you can't justify it being a crime. Sodomy was a crime in this state leading to the arrest of some gays but it got overturned, based on the "right to privacy" why would sibling stuff be any different. here's the example i always use If one had a sibling who had a disease but no insurance and the other had insurance. they could easily sign a paper saying they are "married" just so the sick one can use the insurance.
yeah, and you wouldn't believe the reaction of some of my peers at this statement.like i said, bigger fights to battle.
Incest that is coerced is a crime, and in most cases, there is a psychological disturbance. It's not natural to be attracted to your siblings. People do not typically view their siblings as sexual beings. But honestly, between consenting adults, who really cares? Why as a society should we be threatened by that or forbid it? It's certainly not a slippery slope argument, because there will never be marriage licenses granted to men and their pets or adults and their children.
Do you think that statement hasn't been made about teh gays over the years?
What about incest that isn't coerced? How do you know there's a psychological disturbance in most cases and it's not natural? That's exactly what was said about sexuality just a few decades ago. Do you consider yourself a bigot in regards to incest? Or do you agree siblings should be allowed to marry?
If you can't see the difference between sexuality and bestiality, then I can't help you.
Consenting adults should be allowed to get a marriage license, whether they are same-sex or not, blood relatives or not...or the government should stop issuing marriage licenses altogether, in which case it's up to an individual church to perform a ceremony or not.
And everyone who doesn't agree with the siblings marriage is a bigot and an asshat, right?
If they aren't standing in the way of it or trying to pre-empt it, their distaste is of no consequence.
I was refering to the adult thing.
But if they vote against legislation that enforces the siblings marriages, they're bigots and asshats, right?
They are interfering with the privacy rights of consenting adults in that case. Incest and sexuality are two very different things.
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