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    so why call out only booner if the whole team choked?
    I'm not calling Bonner. I think Bonner is our best option at C but when he can't shot in 2 big games on the road it's time to worry

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    I'm not calling Bonner. I think Bonner is our best option at C but when he can't shot in 2 big games on the road it's time to worry
    lets see after this roadtrip
    then decide ok

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    Why just blame bonner when the team shot 37 percent.Everybody was bricking tonight.

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    The spurs as a team choked.
    I actually wouldnt say Bonner chocked. He is what he is, and what he is against quality was shown again today. Dead end.

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    Helping Bonner cover on D by doubling is killing the Spurs. He's spot 3 shooter who when he isn't hitting isn't doing jack. That's a role player, not a starter or key player.

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    i wouldn't worry about Bonner 3 shooting. all we are asking him is to shoot the open 3's, so what's the difference if these open 3 are against LA or against OKC ? an open shot is an open shot. he only had a bad night from the 3 pt line, as manu and mason had.

    His inability to rebound against athletic bigs is way more annoying.

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    Helping Bonner cover on D by doubling is killing the Spurs. He's spot 3 shooter who when he isn't hitting isn't doing jack. That's a role player, not a starter or key player.
    I don't know why they did that in the 3rd quarter. They just killed us and the game was pretty much done at that point.

    BTW without Bonner, we were able to hang on with the Lakers in the 1st half and that was very encouraging.

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    bonner shoots like a guard. rebounds like a G/SF, handles the ball like a center and has the slowness of a center. if he had quickness and mobility, he would make a very good SF. but he's a guard/forward stuck in PF/C's body.

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    It doesn't matter if he can't hit in big games
    so which player WAS hitting their shots in this "big game"

    I can't believe there are idiots who would pin this thrashing on a role player and one of the bright spots on the Spurs this year.

    Our big three are Duncan Manu and TP in case anyone needs reminding, and they got worked today, Bonner making 1 or 2 more of his shots would not have fixed that. and Manu was the least effective of the big 3 out there once again, as has been the case just about all season. remind me, which one are we paying 10+ mil to for being a star player and stepping up in big games? Bonner or Manu?

    but no, it's all Bonner's fault, the guy who leads the team in +/- on the year.

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    Bonner has done a nice job as a starter in most games but I don't think he has the mental toughness to consistently play at his best in the Playoffs or in big games. This is crucial against the Lakers because Phil Jackson will leave you open regardless of what your shooting % is. It's almost a sort of psychological defense. It causes the weak minded to lose confidence in themselves.

    How many times have we lost to the Lakers this decade and said, "Man if we had just hit our open shots..."
    Truth.

    I want to believe in Bonner but games like today's really illustrate his shortcomings. The worst of which being he's simply not a big game player. It's a victory with Bonner if he plays an average game against a good team. On the road against a good team? You just hope he doesn't lay a massive egg.

    Hopefully he magically loses his choke-ish ways but I'm not exactly holding my breath . . .

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    so which player WAS hitting their shots in this "big game"

    I can't believe there are idiots who would pin this thrashing on a role player and one of the bright spots on the Spurs this year.

    Our big three are Duncan Manu and TP in case anyone needs reminding, and they got worked today, Bonner making 1 or 2 more of his shots would not have fixed that. and Manu was the least effective of the big 3 out there once again, as has been the case just about all season. remind me, which one are we paying 10+ mil to for being a star player and stepping up in big games? Bonner or Manu?

    but no, it's all Bonner's fault, the guy who leads the team in +/- on the year.
    I will say again. I think Bonner is doing a good job this season but I wanted to see how he'd play in big games and so far he didn't play well. He missed shots he makes the whole season.

    The big 3 + Bruce and Mason proved they can hit in big games. I didn't see Bonner doing that so far

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    Spurs were 5-23 from three. I haven't checked yet but that's gotta be their worst shooting day of the year. They missed a bunch of open looks.

    Like it or not, our team is built around the three point shot. I don't think starting Oberto is the answer. If we get a talented big on the level of Bynum and Gasol, that would be great. But if we don't, we need Bonner for the extra offense, imo.

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    The big 3 + Bruce and Mason proved they can hit in big games. I didn't see Bonner doing that so far
    they really haven't, they may have done it a couple of times in the distant past, but they haven't shown that they can do it going forward.

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    booner spaces the floor
    some reason he was off today
    mason was to
    manu was to
    hey started hot and never made another one
    you're a fukin duncecap.

    bonner in blows and should not be playing at all.

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    you're a fukin duncecap.

    bonner in blows and should not be playing at all.
    I agree with the short one!!

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    Pop knows he needs to make a trade. If Bynum wasnt as good as he is, i know Pop wouldnt feel he needs to make a trade.....but with Bynum playing very well he knows he needs another big who can either be long enough to outrebound/outdefend him or a big that can post up.
    The Spurs usually build their team to face who they believe will be their toughest opponent. When it was the Lakers of Shaq, they got Rasho. Then Shaq went East and Dallas gave them fits, and they went for smaller, more perimeter oriented big men like Bonner. I think it is now apparent that to get an NBA le, one must consider the Lakers and their big men of Gasol and Bynum. Starting Bonner just is not going to cut it. The only hope against the Lakers with the team as it is now constructed is to start Thomas.

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    so manu for diaw?

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    God are we seeing the real bone head against the elite teams.

    We need Oberto in the line up asap. We're lacking size and the frustrating Duncan was really evident today.

    I've never seen Duncan so pissed at a player like he was with Bonner today.
    Oberto should never play again. Ever. He's horrible and I don't care if he's from Argentina.

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    The Spurs usually build their team to face who they believe will be their toughest opponent. When it was the Lakers of Shaq, they got Rasho. Then Shaq went East and Dallas gave them fits, and they went for smaller, more perimeter oriented big men like Bonner. I think it is now apparent that to get an NBA le, one must consider the Lakers and their big men of Gasol and Bynum. Starting Bonner just is not going to cut it. The only hope against the Lakers with the team as it is now constructed is to start Thomas.
    Another good point...ploto!!

    I've been posting that today as well. KT needs to start when they play the Lakers. His toughness inside will help against Bynum and he can hit the pick-n-pop!!

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    Mavericks game

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    they really haven't, they may have done it a couple of times in the distant past, but they haven't shown that they can do it going forward.


    What team have u been watching the past few years...

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    F.Elson 34:36 5-11 0-0 0-2 +6 6 6 12 2 4 5 2 2 0 10

    Ten points and twelve boards for Elson last night.

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    Your center is the 2nd best 3 point shooter in the game... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Yes, who ever heard of a successful team with a three point shooting center?

    Laimbeer was one of the top outside-shooting centers of his era, draining over 200 three pointers for his career, and excelled at running the pick and roll with guards Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars. Then-head coach Chuck Daly utilized Laimbeer's skills by having him fade to the perimeter rather than roll to the basket.
    -- from Wikipedia (so you know it's 100% accurate, unbiased, and not plagiarized.)

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    Yes, who ever heard of a successful team with a three point shooting center?

    Laimbeer was one of the top outside-shooting centers of his era, draining over 200 three pointers for his career, and excelled at running the pick and roll with guards Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars. Then-head coach Chuck Daly utilized Laimbeer's skills by having him fade to the perimeter rather than roll to the basket.
    -- from Wikipedia (so you know it's 100% accurate, unbiased, and not plagiarized.)
    Comparing Laimbeer and Bonner is like comparing Hitler and Pee Wee Herman.

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