So you guys still think we are on the Lakers level???

[DrHouse]

The Spurs didn't get to the line because they opted to take jumpshots all game.

[Ghazi]

that might be true...what was the outcomes of the games the Lakers played against Boston and Cleveland?

Cavs were without 2 starters and it was @ staples FWIW.

[Don Quixote]

SA has a chance. Every team has a chance. But probability of SA beating LA with both teams healthy? 25% 40 at most maybe? No way its a coin toss.

SA has a chance to win once or twice in a seven game series. But not 4 times. Won't happen. Kobe & co. are too deep and too good.

They'll cruise to the Finals where they should meet Boston, Cleveland, or Orlando. Then they will be challenged.

[Quiet Strength]

agree both teams are different this year! Today both teams were at Full strength even though Manu is still hurting.. and Kobe playing with 3 fingers on his shooting hand

So then both teams still weren't really at full strength.

[TheMACHINE]

Yeah you all beat boston last game but didn't the lakers lose the first one? And wasn't cleveland missing a couple of big players last game?

Lakers only played Boston once and won. Cleveland was missing Z...but still lost by 17.

[HarlemHeat37]

Its obvious because....?

the flaws..

both Boston and Cleveland are clearly better defensively, and are much more consistent in that regard..

LA is the best offensive team in the NBA, but you can clearly see their defensive flaws in every game..

[MarHill]

Not even close. I think last year's 4-1 defeat in the playoffs, and this year's (thus far) Laer dominance pretty much seal the deal.

I am aware that the Silver & Black somehow beat them last month. Not sure how that happened ... they tried their best to give it to the Lakers. It came down to a lucky ref's call.

And there's simply too much talent on that Lakers squad. They are better, deeper, younger, stronger, and more talented at every position than we are (except PF, and it's close).

How many Spurs would play significant minutes on the Lakers? 3 -- Duncan would start, and Tony and Gino would come off the bench. The rest would ride the bench, if they were on the roster at all.

How many Lakers would start for the Spurs. All of em, and I mean all. Even Radmonovich.

It's not even close. Lakers are #1 in the West. The Spurs, maybe a distant second. Truth hurts.

I think you are overstating your case.

If the Spurs don't make shots....I don't care how good your defense is you are not going to win.

Also, I think we people make way too much of regular season games. I will give the Lakers credit for today's victory. It was decisive.

But the Spurs did some stuff...they can clean up as the season goes along.

Lastly, Manu is the X-Factor for the Spurs in order for them to win a championship. They need him fully healthy in order to be at his playmaking best. If he's not..the Spurs are a good team not a great team.

I'm not going to go overboard with one loss on the Lakers home floor...because they are things they can improve on.

Jeff Van Gundy said that Pop told him before the game he will experiement to see how certain matchups would look if they meet the Lakers in the playoffs.

I know one experiment they need to stop is Mason playing point. Just because you can do it....doesn't mean you should do. Because the Spurs offense needs to flow through Tim and you have to get him the ball in good places for him to attack the defense. They lost two or three possesions like that in the first half.

Bad loss..but not the end of the world!!

[Agloco]

I don't think I've ever heard anybody say we're on LA's level..

the first game wasn't a fluke, we played a much different game than we did today..MUCH smarter offensively..

Farmar's production was replaced by the scrub Josh Powell in the first game, it's irrelevant..it's not like Sun Yue was hurting them in the few minutes he played, he even generated a turnover..

Walton and Vujacic were irrelevant in this game..

we aren't ready to play LA with this defense..we would have had a chance if Bowen actually played most of the 3rd, but he didn't..nevertheless, we aren't winning against them until we get back to playing great defense..

One good look at the stats for the year will reveal that this is the most disturbing change from Spurs teams of the past. The defense has slipped noticeably this year while the offense has remained more or less at par.

Particularly alarming is the opponents FG% against us.

Pop always makes comments about the defense but this year his words ring true and that is a major problem going forward. I don't see the Spurs competing for a le without a lot of interior help and a lot more Bowen-like D on the perimeter.

[TheMACHINE]

Cavs were without 2 starters and it was @ staples FWIW.

Yah true..still lost by 17 though. Im not arueing that the Lakers are better than the Cavs. Im just wondering why 2 posters in this thread say its OBVIOUS the cavs are better than the Lakers.

[Don Quixote]

lol, scared of trolls attacking you.

BTW no way can we get past this Lakers team. They're too big and too athletic for this team.

Lakers Big men >>>>>>>>>> Spurs big men.

No kidding. Their bigs are head and shoulders better than ours as a group.

The Laker guards, also, are better than ours. Fisher never misses when he plays S.A. If Farmar played the Spurs every game, he'd be in the Hall of Fame. And even Vujacic, their bench warmer, is better than our guys.

[MarHill]

The Spurs didn't get to the line because they opted to take jumpshots all game.

Yep they did and they missed a lot of jumpers!!

A good decisive win for the Lakers!!!

[TheMACHINE]

the flaws..

both Boston and Cleveland are clearly better defensively, and are much more consistent in that regard..

LA is the best offensive team in the NBA, but you can clearly see their defensive flaws in every game..

Yet the Lakers beat both of them and have a better record then both, but both of those teams do not have flaws?

[Warlord23]

I agree...the spurs should get more freethrows...maybe they shouldnt settle for jumpshots and actually drive in or pass it to TD.

Yeah I'd like to see more action within the paint from the Spurs, but there were so many instances when we didn't get the call ... be it Timmy scoring on Gasol while getting bumped, Bynum with a lot of contact on D but no call, Manu getting pushed by Kobe, etc. I have no problem if the refs want to allow some contact, but then Gasol shouldn't have got the and-1 on Tim when replays showed no contact, and our bigs shouldn't be whistled for simply bodying up on Bynum.

[HarlemHeat37]

One good look at the stats for the year will reveal that this is the most disturbing change from Spurs teams of the past. The defense has slipped noticeably this year while the offense has remained more or less at par.

Particularly alarming is the opponents FG% against us.

Pop always makes comments about the defense but this year his words ring true and that is a major problem going forward. I don't see the Spurs competing for a le without a lot of interior help and a lot more Bowen-like D on the perimeter.

yup..we're ranked 4th defensively, but there's a significant gap between the top 3 and the next 3(the top 3 are Cleveland, Boston, Orlando..the following 3 after a big gap are Houston, SA, LA)..the difference between us and the elite 4 is that our offense isn't good enough for us to win at an elite level while playing "good" defense..we NEED great defense..

I really don't know if we can reach the elite level defensively..Bowen is still clearly a great perimeter defender, but who else? Mason, Manu and Parker constantly miss rotations..Bonner isn't an ideal compliment for our system defensively..Tim will get better defensively, he's already starting to lately..but we really need our perimeter guys to step their D up, because it's mediocre right now..

[Don Quixote]

I think you are overstating your case.

If the Spurs don't make shots....I don't care how good your defense is you are not going to win.

Also, I think we people make way too much of regular season games. I will give the Lakers credit for today's victory. It was decisive.

But the Spurs did some stuff...they can clean up as the season goes along.

Lastly, Manu is the X-Factor for the Spurs in order for them to win a championship. They need him fully healthy in order to be at his playmaking best. If he's not..the Spurs are a good team not a great team.

I'm not going to go overboard with one loss on the Lakers home floor...because they are things they can improve on.

Jeff Van Gundy said that Pop told him before the game he will experiement to see how certain matchups would look if they meet the Lakers in the playoffs.

I know one experiment they need to stop is Mason playing point. Just because you can do it....doesn't mean you should do. Because the Spurs offense needs to flow through Tim and you have to get him the ball in good places for him to attack the defense. They lost two or three possesions like that in the first half.

Bad loss..but not the end of the world!!

Maybe I overstate, but not by much.

And it's not just one loss. We lucked out in the first game, almost completely choking it away. And let's not forget about last year in the playoffs. Put last year's losses together with this year's, and we have a clear picture -- the Lakers are much, much better than the Spurs. And the Spurs are good. But the Lakers are great. With much more talent at every position. They'll cruise to the Finals.

[mytespurs]

we beat LA on their second game of back to back without walton, famar and sasha by 1 point...and somehow you guys think we are on their level.

back to reality

So far this season the Spurs were NEVER on the Laker's level. The Lakers at this point and time are clearly a better team than the Spurs. Saying that, I think the Spurs will be in the mix come playoff time where anything can happen.

[tmtcsc]

we beat LA on their second game of back to back without walton, famar and sasha by 1 point...and somehow you guys think we are on their level.

back to reality

off Faker fan.


Just like our win, this loss is meaningless. Every Spurs fan knows that we need to improve our defense and rebounding if we are to win the west or go further.

[ipeefreely]

[homer]It's only January.[/homer]

Your team sucks and the girl is the worst dancer I have ever seen >>>

LMAO

[HarlemHeat37]

Yet the Lakers beat both of them and have a better record then both, but both of those teams do not have flaws?

every team has flaws..

the Lakers defensive flaw is clearly bigger than anything that goes against Cleveland or Boston..

as for beating them, it's meaningless..they beat Boston at home, and they beat Cleveland at home without 2 starters(including their 2nd best player/only post presence)..

the Lakers record is due to a few reasons..Cavs have lost Big Z for long stretches, they've been missing West for a while now..Boston lost Perkins for a while..Lakers currently play in a weaker conference, and have had the luxury of playing the most home games in the NBA..

[Don Quixote]

If the Spurs don't make shots....I don't care how good your defense is you are not going to win.

Also, I think we people make way too much of regular season games. I will give the Lakers credit for today's victory. It was decisive.

But the Spurs did some stuff...they can clean up as the season goes along.

Lastly, Manu is the X-Factor for the Spurs in order for them to win a championship. They need him fully healthy in order to be at his playmaking best. If he's not..the Spurs are a good team not a great team.

I'm not going to go overboard with one loss on the Lakers home floor...because they are things they can improve on.

Bad loss..but not the end of the world!!

And another thing ...

that's just it. The Spurs NEVER make the shots they need to beat the Lakers. They never make the stops, never make the plays. It's always something. (I am aware they got a little luck last week, however.)

And when will Manu EVER be healthy enough to help the Spurs at least have a chance against these clowns?

And ... it's not one loss. It's many, many losses.

[TheMACHINE]

every team has flaws..

the Lakers defensive flaw is clearly bigger than anything that goes against Cleveland or Boston..

as for beating them, it's meaningless..they beat Boston at home, and they beat Cleveland at home without 2 starters(including their 2nd best player/only post presence)..

the Lakers record is due to a few reasons..Cavs have lost Big Z for long stretches, they've been missing West for a while now..Boston lost Perkins for a while..Lakers currently play in a weaker conference, and have had the luxury of playing the most home games in the NBA..

to each his own. I just think your underestimating the Lakers, but thats all good.

[ipeefreely]

Yeah I'd like to see more action within the paint from the Spurs, but there were so many instances when we didn't get the call ... be it Timmy scoring on Gasol while getting bumped, Bynum with a lot of contact on D but no call, Manu getting pushed by Kobe, etc. I have no problem if the refs want to allow some contact, but then Gasol shouldn't have got the and-1 on Tim when replays showed no contact, and our bigs shouldn't be whistled for simply bodying up on Bynum.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


And the last game, where Manure got away with every brush screen know to mankind?

You got your arse handed to you, own up, ahahahahahahahah

A classic BEATDOWN

[MarHill]

Maybe I overstate, but not by much.

And it's not just one loss. We lucked out in the first game, almost completely choking it away. And let's not forget about last year in the playoffs. Put last year's losses together with this year's, and we have a clear picture -- the Lakers are much, much better than the Spurs. And the Spurs are good. But the Lakers are great. With much more talent at every position. They'll cruise to the Finals.

We didn't luck out the first game...the Spurs hit shots!! And Manu was the X-Factor!! That was the key.

I will agree with you that the Lakers have more talent the Spurs. The Spurs have never been the most talented team and they still won championships. But the Spurs have to play smart and efficient (in order to make up for it) and when they don't that...they lose.

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[HarlemHeat37]

to each his own. I just think your underestimating the Lakers, but thats all good.

it's not like the Lakers can't become better defensively..they have the players..if they get it together defensively, they're the best team in the NBA IMO..obviously a lot of people already feel that way about them though, and it's understandable..

[MarHill]

Maybe I overstate, but not by much.

And it's not just one loss. We lucked out in the first game, almost completely choking it away. And let's not forget about last year in the playoffs. Put last year's losses together with this year's, and we have a clear picture -- the Lakers are much, much better than the Spurs. And the Spurs are good. But the Lakers are great. With much more talent at every position. They'll cruise to the Finals.

And another thing ...

that's just it. The Spurs NEVER make the shots they need to beat the Lakers. They never make the stops, never make the plays. It's always something. (I am aware they got a little luck last week, however.)

And when will Manu EVER be healthy enough to help the Spurs at least have a chance against these clowns?

And ... it's not one loss. It's many, many losses.

What are you talking about? They are 29-14....not many losses.

The first REGULAR SEASON game against LA showed when they MAKE SHOTS..they can beat anybody in the league!!

You make a good point about Manu!! Without him fully healthy..they won't win the championship.

But...please relax and let the season play out. The NBA Championship isn't decided in late January!!