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    If my memory serves me correct, Manu used to be fearless driving to the whole and finishing around the basket.

    These days, he's been looking like an Argentinian Michael Finley.

    Is he still "getting back into shape after the surgery"? Or is he washed up? Or maybe I am delusional and don't remember correctly the type of player he was?


    I don't think the Spurs can win with Manu just standing around chucking up three-pointers. They are at their best when he is driving to the basket and creating plays. It opens up the entire offense.

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    no he likes to turn the ball over to

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    no he likes to turn the ball over to

    You're right, I forgot about that.

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    Just a few games ago, Manu looked like he was getting back into form - being a lot more aggressive and taking it to the rack. The last two games, he hasn't been himself but I think it's WAY too early to think that he's just washed up and a jump shooter now.

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    Injuries change a player.

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    no he likes to turn the ball over to

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    truth hurt?

    he played well then he has another setup after his injury

    he is not above getting called out
    he also does not trust hill on the second unit
    hill does not turn the ball over

    I would trade manu for diaw

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    He's not even shooting these days. How many shots did he take today?

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    He's not even shooting these days. How many shots did he take today?
    11 in 25 minutes. (He missed 5 out of 6 three pointers).

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    Anyways, Manu is driving into the paint as much as he was last season. He's finishing even better than he was last season. The only thing wrong with his offense is that he's not hitting his jumpers at a high enough rate -- specifically his three-pointers.

    He's not dunking, he might have a few more "interesting" turnovers per minute but Ginobili's general play offensively is the same as last season.

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    truth hurt?


    I would trade manu for diaw
    I wouldn't trade Manu four three Diaws.

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    yeah you would trade him when he has no value left at all or let him walk

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    Ask Dwyane Wade.

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    Anyways, Manu is driving into the paint as much as he was last season. He's finishing even better than he was last season. The only thing wrong with his offense is that he's not hitting his jumpers at a high enough rate -- specifically his three-pointers.

    He's not dunking, he might have a few more "interesting" turnovers per minute but Ginobili's general play offensively is the same as last season.
    I'm still waiting for his 6 or 7 game run scoring 20+ and shooting 60%+ from the field. To his credit, it happened around the All Star break last year.

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    diaw proved without amare he can be the man
    manu is also going to be be a question mark about health in playoffs
    and you have to play him only 25 minutes a game hoping he has something left
    with diaw you can play him as many as you want
    spurs are not the knicks and can not afford to pay max to people who only play 25 minutes a game

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    diaw proved without amare he can be the man
    manu is also going to be be a question mark about health in playoffs
    and you have to play him only 25 minutes a game hoping he has something left
    with diaw you can play him as many as you want
    spurs are not the knicks and can not afford to pay max to people who only play 25 minutes a game
    That's not Manu's decision, but the coach...

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    [QUOTE=ducks;3055380]truth hurt?QUOTE]


    well, even if manu being finished ends up being the truth, which is far from sure, i still see more reason for a true spurs fan to feel pain than to enjoy it.

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    That's not Manu's decision, but the coach...
    spurs have seen what he does if he plays more then that
    pop is not stupid

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    diaw proved without amare he can be the man
    manu is also going to be be a question mark about health in playoffs
    and you have to play him only 25 minutes a game hoping he has something left
    with diaw you can play him as many as you want
    spurs are not the knicks and can not afford to pay max to people who only play 25 minutes a game
    You do realize that since Diaw has gone to Charlotte, he's averaging 13.6 pts and shooting 45.9 percent from the field. Both those numbers are LESS than Manu's averages, but Diaw plays 12 more minutes a game.

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    [QUOTE=kace;3055406]
    truth hurt?QUOTE]


    well, even if manu being finished ends up being the truth, which is far from sure, i still see more reason for a true spurs fan to feel pain than to enjoy it.
    I feel it
    I bleed black and silver
    I live in suns land
    I want another le

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    You do realize that since Diaw has gone to Charlotte, he's averaging 13.6 pts and shooting 45.9 percent from the field. Both those numbers are LESS than Manu's averages, but Diaw plays 12 more minutes a game.
    hills numbers would go up
    since manu does not trust hill
    and spurs problem is a big
    mason numbers would also go up without manu
    and if spurs had mason instead of manu last year spurs beat lakers
    and other posters posted the same thing

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    You do realize that since Diaw has gone to Charlotte, he's averaging 13.6 pts and shooting 45.9 percent from the field. Both those numbers are LESS than Manu's averages, but Diaw plays 12 more minutes a game.
    what about the assists and the rebounds ? what about the intangibles ? what about the scoring when really needed, not only the average ?

    manu at his usual level is way better than diaw. but don't argue than right now, diaw isn't palying better than manu. it's just false.

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    spurs need a big
    to get one you trade someone
    manu is the most expandable
    with manu you get a gamble he is VERY INCONSITENTANT
    his passing is either brillaint or it is a turnover

    which manu will you have when the game is on?
    and manu in the playoffs MUST HAVE atleast 2 day rest to be effective
    playoffs schedules are not always like that

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    hills numbers would go up
    since manu does not trust hill
    and spurs problem is a big
    mason numbers would also go up without manu
    and if spurs had mason instead of manu last year spurs beat lakers
    and other posters posted the same thing


    I don't see how anyone could want Diaw over Manu. Diaw is getting more boards and assists in Charlotte than he did in Phoenix, but his shooting percentage has dropped by 10 percentage points (though his 3 pt % is up). That's huge.

    Plus with Diaw, you run the risk that he would gain 40 pounds in the offseason and take a year and a half to get back in shape again.

    And Manu is a playoff warrior.

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    and with manu you risk he will get injured again
    spurs tp would make sure diaw would not be overweight
    they have a diet schedule
    diaw shooting percent would go up because spurs have duncan suns had oneal

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