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    Spurs are nowhere close to the Lakers. Only a moron would think otherwise.
    Mavs are nowhere close to anything

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    Mavs are nowhere close to anything

    Wrong! They are close to losing Dirk to a real contender.

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    The Spurs need each member of the Big 3 to play great, and have hot three-point shooters, while LA either is shorthanded or has an off game, in order to beat the Lakers. The Spurs lack talent and size around Tim Duncan up front, and their defense has slipped noticeably. The team has declined from le contender to second-round playoff fodder, maybe WCF if they get a good draw.

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    I hate to type this but in a seven game series we would be hard pressed to beat this Laker team even WITHOUT KOBE. Like Buck Harvey said they seem to have 2 guys for each position. We needed add BIGS who had skills[ Splitter] and athleticism[ Mahimni]. Bonner and Thomas are power forwards playing out of position which means Tim needs to do all the heavy lifting. Is there a player out there that could help us this year? Next season will be more of the same unless we forgo the 2010 master plan and decide to win now.

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    The Spurs need each member of the Big 3 to play great, and have hot three-point shooters, while LA either is shorthanded or has an off game, in order to beat the Lakers. The Spurs lack talent and size around Tim Duncan up front, and their defense has slipped noticeably. The team has declined from le contender to second-round playoff fodder, maybe WCF if they get a good draw.
    Agree. The spurs just have not been able to get any really good front court player since Robinson.

    They managed to win without a quality frontcourt player along side Duncan after Robinson retired but trimes have changed and they no longer will be able to win with a lack of front court skilled players.

    The Lakers and Boston are stronger than any teams the spurs had to face in their championship years after Robinson.

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    New Orleans spanked us thoroughly during the regular season last year yet we took them in the playoffs. Cleveland swept us in the regular season the year we swept them in the Finals.

    LA is better than the Spurs right now...that's true. But there's still time to right the ship by the time the games actually count.

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    LA is much better than the Hornets and the Cavs were. That is clear. The difference is the Lakers beat the Spurs in the playoffs last year, not the Cavs or the Hornets.

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    It boggles my mind why the Spur's FO would think Matt Bonner is the solution for the Spurs frontcourt depth.
    They know he isnt the solution. But as of right now, Matt is the only Big worth giving a chance. They already know what Fab and Kurt have.

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    Agree. The spurs just have not been able to get any really good front court player since Robinson.

    They managed to win without a quality frontcourt player along side Duncan after Robinson retired but trimes have changed and they no longer will be able to win with a lack of front court skilled players.

    The Lakers and Boston are stronger than any teams the spurs had to face in their championship years after Robinson.
    Yup

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    I don't buy the argument that the Spurs will "turn it on" in the second half of the season. Through 43 games what you see is probably what you'll get. The Spurs are mediocre offensively, good defensively but not as good in recent years.

    Some people, don't take margin of victory stats seriously but I do, as it measures how often you score and how often you disallow teams from scoring

    Margin stats in Duncan era:

    97-98: +4.0
    98-99: +8.1
    99-00: +6.0
    00-01: +7.8
    01-02: +6.2
    02-03: +5.4
    03-04: +7.2
    04-05: +7.8
    05-06: +6.8
    06-07: +8.4
    07-08: +4.8
    08-09: +2.9

    I think it can legitimately be said this is the worst Spurs team of the Tim
    Duncan era.
    This comes about as a direct result of the defensive decline we've seen throughout the season. The defensive decline, in turn, comes about as a direct result of the lack of interior help.

    The other stat to look at is opponents FG% against us. It's bad and getting worse by the game. I'll give you 3 guesses as to where most of those shots are coming from.......

    The bottom line is that without an athletic big (6'10" +) or a very hot shooting performance in the playoffs from Mason, Bowen, Manu and Parker, we're not winning a le.

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    New Orleans spanked us thoroughly during the regular season last year yet we took them in the playoffs. Cleveland swept us in the regular season the year we swept them in the Finals.

    LA is better than the Spurs right now...that's true. But there's still time to right the ship by the time the games actually count.
    There's a difference between being beaten and being dismantled. We didn't simply lose, we were destroyed. The Hornets were an inexperienced team last year. The Lakers have loads of experience. There's no comparison. None at all.

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    New Orleans spanked us thoroughly during the regular season last year yet we took them in the playoffs. Cleveland swept us in the regular season the year we swept them in the Finals.

    LA is better than the Spurs right now...that's true. But there's still time to right the ship by the time the games actually count.
    Playoff experience may get a team somewhere against a physically superior team that's never been there before, like New Orleans last year. It gets a team nothing against a better, deeper team that spanked it out of the playoffs a year ago.

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    I don't understand why you guys are surprised that this is the worst team of the Duncan era..EVERY TEAM starts declining..we've had one of the best runs in sports history, we're obviously going to decline at some point..

    look at the Lakers..they had a great run from 2000 to 2004, and then how did they get back on top in 2008? they missed the playoffs and got a lottery pick from it(Bynum), and they used their assets in the next few years..they even almost lost Kobe, which would have screwed their franchise for years..

    it's difficult to stay on top at an elite level..appreciate what we've had..the fact that we've had limited assets, but have still managed to play at a high level is extremely impressive..we even managed to get studs like Scola and Splitter, but unfortunately it didn't work out..

    this off-season is going to be a big one..our role players are going to be much better with Gist, Hairston, hopefully Ian..we'll have some expiring contracts for the following season, including Manu, which will allow opportunities for big trades..hope something good happens with Splitter..we'll have a chance to re-load next year..

    with that being said, there's still the chance of a trade this year, and hopefully something good can come out of the trade deadline for us..

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    But there's still time to right the ship by the time the games actually count.


    ehhh.. i doubt it... there is no time.... look forward to next season and 09 draft

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    if 3 or even 4 jump shots falling for key role players, could have easily swung the game in the Spurs favor. Jackson dared the Spurs role players to beat them by giving them a host of open jumpers. They didn't hit them, so the Lakers did not have to play honest defense.

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    it amazes the outta me how some of you guys actually think we can beat LA in the playoffs

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    Whatever you say, emo fan.

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    When both teams are healthy the Spurs are just too small and too slow for LA.
    How the are we healthy without Manu? At many times especially in big games he's been our best player. Props to the lakers they came out gunning, But jesus christ the ing refs at home no less. lakers or not has there ever been a superstar to get no respect in the way of calls like Duncan.

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    at the meltdown threads!!!

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    When both teams are healthy the Spurs are just too small and too slow for LA.
    Agreed.

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    The Spurs are fine. I really enjoyed this game tonight. I think the Spurs bench is better than the Lakers bench though. If the Spurs had actually remembered there was a basketball game tonight, they could have won this game handily. Spurs did terrible at the charity stripe too. That hurt.

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    The Spurs are fine. I really enjoyed this game tonight. I think the Spurs bench is better than the Lakers bench though. If the Spurs had actually remembered there was a basketball game tonight, they could have won this game handily. Spurs did terrible at the charity stripe too. That hurt.
    I agree that the Spurs bench is better right now. With Odom as a starter, the Lakers bench has sucked.

    Once Bynum gets back, I hope Odom returns back to the bench to give them a leader/playmaker. The Laker bench runs around like chickens without Kobe/Lamar running the team.

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    yes we are, when manu and drew come back

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