So what, Stern should be smiling cause two large market teams are doing very well right now...wtf does this have to do with any conspiracies?
If you actually buy into some conspiracy with Stern and the Lakers/Celtics (or his involvement with the management of any team rosters or trades) then stop watching the Spurs.
There's no reason to even watch the games if stern is tampering with officials, player negotiations, etc...
I expect these arguments from small children. stfu
I agree with you "tanking" is probably an excessive word. They had some good reason not to bring back DRob too early and I can't blame the Spurs FO for that.
But you could agree that it is a bit unfair for the other teams that a team already equiped with a HOF center can pick Tim Duncan.
The Lakers and Celtics trade are valid, unfair but valid. So we should just move on and stop whining about that.
IF ANY FIXING WAS GOING ON IT WOULD IN FAVOR OF THE SPURS SIMPLY FOR THE FACT THAT DONAGHY WAS GAMBLING ON SPURS AND PHX DURING 06 AND 07 PLAYOFFS both in favor of the spurs
The Spurs have an awesome GM in RC Buford, the guy knows how to find gems like Parker, Ginobili & Hill. I know David Stern is definitely happy about the possibility at a Lakers-Celtics finals but the fact is if the Suns & Mavericks hadn't downgraded their team with stupid trades and bad firings, you gotta wonder if the Lakers would truly be the lone wolf in the West. IMO, bad decisions by other teams made the Lakers great this season. I give Lakers management their credit for SOMEHOW getting Pau Gasol for air
I don't see any reason to assume there was foul play related to the Celtics trades. The Sonics got a Lottery pick for an aging Ray Allen, and the Wolves got a marquee forward and some help towards rebuilding a team that wasn't going anywhere with KG leading the way. That both players have been rejuvenated somewhat upon arriving in Boston doesn't change what their values were with their previous teams.
I understand the point you were making...and you're right, business is business. If I were in the Lakers FO, or any team's FO, and could have made the Gasol trade I would have done so in a heartbeat. You can't really fault them for that.
But the Spurs ability to do more with less over the years is a pretty remarkable achievement, I'd say much moreso than some of the wealthier teams' abilities to go out and stack the deck in their favor. I could argue that there have been a lot of teams that have gotten tons of top draft picks over the last 20-30 years who didn't converted that 'luck' into a championship...the Clippers, Hawks, Magic...etc.
Any team that wins a le gets some lucky breaks along the way, unless they are so clearly dominant that they just take what's theirs, and there hasn't been a team like that around in a long time.
most of those were legit calls, or at least close enough that they would normally be called. why dont you watch the LAL-SAC series again
YOu obniosuly did not watch the 96 season. 50 was hurt and while they sucked, Caddilac and Co. played their guts out night after night. Pop had them come to play even though they were awful. Decrepiet Dom Wilkins WOOHOO!!!
the best teams that money can buy are the knicks, mavs, and cavs--they're all between 10 and 20 million over the lakers in salary. the lakers aren't even in the top five payrolls for the league. you guys need to get your facts straight!
most of those were legit calls, or at least close enough that they would normally be called. why dont you watch the LAL-SAC series again
dont be a homer and open your eyes
why dont you take my advice and watch the SAC-LAL series again
which one....01 where we swept them or 02 where horry saved us much like he saved you guys on numerous occasions.
BTW.. on a side note dont be suprised if horry comes back for the lakers after the asb
'02 the fixed one
the thing that is great is that the spurs - in a tiny market, in a so called "boring" city - have accomplished more in the last decade than most teams, big market or small, in any sport, can say they've accomplshed in their entire existence. this is something to be proud of, and hopefully it continues.
was the gasol trade bull in the sense that it made them excessively talented? Yes. . . Is it a conspiracy (aka was stern involved)? Maybe. You never know when that amount of money is at stake for the league.
I think it makes SA fans look bad to keep complaining about it, though. What's keeping the debate going going to do? Move on. This is a first class org., and there fans should follow suit.
Also, the Lakers will look a uva lot less powerful than this year when hey have to face teh reality of odom signing somehwhere else for more.
ya just like how your victories on 06 and 07 are fixed
if we win it all this year odom might sign here for less....
the thing with the spurs, moreso than than the laker over the years, is they've mostly made there own luck. drafting gino and parker, signing s-jax, and now the Ghill signing, happened as a result of the keen eye and countless hours of work of our GM's.
The Lakers franchise on the other hand has had way more presents put on their lap it seems.
From Kobe not wanting to play for a small market when he was drafted (thus the trade of divac for kobe) to this recent Pau trade.
DENIAL..... dont take the work of jerry west away from him..... big market or not trading a reliable Big for a guard who just came out of hs is a risk dont hate on the lakers for that.....
Pathetic that you have no knowlege of this
What are you talking about. Those were fair trades.
Sincerely,
Herschel Walker
This is not true. The Lakers took a gamble and traded their only center to the Hornets so that Charlotte would then select Kobe in the draft to complete the deal. Once Kobe was drafted, he was immediately traded per the agreement. The gamble paid off when Shaq signed. Kobe wouldn't blossom until his third year, so the trade flew under the radar of everyone except Jerry West.
I actually give credit to Tim donaghy, if I was in his shoes, I'd have done the same thing, why? Can you imagine how much money he won by fixing that game? The difference between Tim Donaghy and Bevetta is that Bevetta works with Stern or should I say "The Stern Button." I feel sorry for the suns because they may have been able to win that series but I still give credit to Donaghy for capitalizing on a golden opportunity. Before any of you say he tainted the sport, it was tainted WAY before Donaghy messed with game 3. Just know, is Bevetta is the ref, watch out for some crazy calls and no-calls.
IIRC, Kobe did say he wanted to play in LA in that draft..I have the quote somewhere, I'll look for it if you'd like, but I'm pretty sure you know it..
the Gasol trade was fine..but if any Laker fan actually has the balls to say that the Kings-Lakers game 6 wasn't clearly altered heavily by officiating, they're lying..it got to the point where the announcers were questioning all those calls..it's also no coincidence that during the Donaghy incident, you couldn't find a video of game 6 on youtube due to "copyright" laws, but every other game was posted..
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