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    gtfo with these thoughts of trading Manu for Camby.

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    Love him, but there's just not a situation I can think of that would get it done.

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    Marcus Camby !!!!!!!

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    Marcus Camby erases Austin Croshere's layup.


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    how much roster space do the Clippers have?

    not going to happen, try Jordan and a pg

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    In all honesty, when healthy the Clippers don't NEED anything. They have Davis at the PG, a young stud rookie Gordon at SG, another young stud at SF in Thorton and a PF/C combo of Camby/Kaman/Randolf. On paper the Clippers look pretty good. Even their bench looks pretty good with Kaman/Camby, R. Davis, Jordan and Jones. If it wasn't for injuries and a stupid coach the Clippers would actually be fun to watch.

    That being said, whenever things start to look good the owner usually decides to screw it up by pulling money off the table. IMO the Randolf trade made the Camby move irrelivant. After losing Brand the Clippers scrambled to safe face and landed Camby. My season ticket rep tried soooooooooooooo hard to spin the Brand fiasco by saying Camby made up of the difference. One of those three is going to be the odd man out, and it's highly doubtful that it will be Randolf since he's being seen as the Clippers "savior", that's going to help Baron bring the Clippers back to the playoffs.

    That leaves Camby and Kaman. Kaman is signed through to 2012 I believe at about 9 to 12 million per year AND his contract includes a trade "kicker" that gives him a bonus if he gets traded which would make it hard for the Spurs to pay, over 7 million. Kaman is younger and I think the Clippers would prefer to keep him so IMO Camby is the guy the Clippers would like to move once they get healthy. Plus now that Jordan is showing some game the Clippers probably don't even want Camby as a backup. IMO Camby is very "gettable" but it would have to be for expiring contracts. Sterling would love nothing better than to get cheap AGAIN. He's got enough young guys with rookie contracts that can keep fans in the seats and since he has not true desire to win that the Clippers are 100% looking to dump salary and Camby's the most attractive. In other words, the Clippers are in almost the exact same scenario as the Grizzlies were last year and look what they were willing to do to dump salary. IMO is this is something that would help the Spurs they should give it a serious shot.

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    camby = championship. no question.

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    Spurs should try to get Camby. Even with Camby it would still not be easy beating the lakers but they would at least have a fighting chance with another good frontcourt player.

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    Even though I've never cared for Camby and his propensity for getting hurt, he'd be good for the Spurs. Just like every other trade scenario, though, I don't know who the Spurs have that the Clips would want. You include Parker or Manu in a trade for Camby and the chances of the Spurs getting another le go from 10% this year to zero.

    We're a lottery team without those either of those two.

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    I remember when Camby went up against Duncan in college.

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    I remember when Camby went up against Duncan in college.
    Who won back then?

    And I want Camby too, but it seems damn impossible to get him. I wonder what Pop's list of bigs are that he is trying to work for. Or maybe Ian is good and he's going to April fools the league in February by trading for a solid, semi-athletic big, and simultaneously starting to play Ian.

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    Who won back then?

    And I want Camby too, but it seems damn impossible to get him. I wonder what Pop's list of bigs are that he is trying to work for. Or maybe Ian is good and he's going to April fools the league in February by trading for a solid, semi-athletic big, and simultaneously starting to play Ian.
    I can't remember, I heard the game on the radio. It might have been in the NCAA tourney. I do remember it was billed as a battle between the top two big men in college. Camby was with # 1 ranked UConn.

    Maybe someone can look up the date and results?

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    I can't remember, I heard the game on the radio. It might have been in the NCAA tourney. I do remember it was billed as a battle between the top two big men in college. Camby was with # 1 ranked UConn.

    Maybe someone can look up the date and results?
    Duncan228's archives FTW!!!

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    Camby was UMass, not UConn, wasn't he? And, I'm seeing what I have.

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    Camby was UMass, not UConn, wasn't he? And, I'm seeing what I have.
    The game could have been around Halloween, maybe a pre-season tourney game. All I know is a remember hearing Duncan and Camby go at it in college.

    We are waiting for your research.

    :-)

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    A healthy Camby = another ring

    Unfortunately, is not going to happen. Outside of the big 3 we have nothing to offer the Clippers

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    The game could have been around Halloween, maybe a pre-season tourney game. All I know is a remember hearing Duncan and Camby go at it in college.

    We are waiting for your research.

    :-)
    Here you go:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...amby,%20Marcus

    The first time they met, it was billed as the next big matchup, on a level with the battles between Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Now, when Marcus Camby sees Tim Duncan across the floor on Wednesday in the National Basketball Association finals, he sets it up as a matchup more like David versus Goliath.

    ''He's the best player in the league,'' Camby said of Duncan. ''I'm just trying to get up to where he's at. I'm just taking the same approach as our team has been taking, as the underdog. They're supposed to be the best team with the best record, and he's supposed to be the best player. But we still have to play the game and we're going to show up on Wednesday.''

    With the uncertain status of Larry Johnson, Camby is still not sure just what his role will be. Will he start or remain on the second unit? Will it be Duncan or David Robinson that he must try to contain? Coach Jeff Van Gundy may not be so sure of those answers yet, either, so for now, Camby is like an eager student, politely but excitedly raising his hand and hoping that the teacher will call his name.

    Camby has been tied to Duncan since they met on Dec. 6, 1995, when both were juniors in college. Camby got the better of Duncan that day, with his University of Massachusetts team beating Duncan's Wake Forest squad, 60-46, behind Camby's 17 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Duncan had just 9 points that day on 4-of-18 shooting, grabbing 12 rebounds and blocking 4 shots.

    ''That was four years ago; it seems like an eternity now,'' Camby said. ''I don't remember that much about the game. I know that we won. There was a lot of hoopla being built up. They were trying to make it a Chamberlain-Russell, Olajuwon-Ewing, stuff like that. They were really hyping the game up.

    ''But that was a long time ago. We were both young, young pups. It was different, with double- and triple-teaming, and zones. All I remember is the hype. It seems like in college it was a bigger level. They made a big thing of it. We were both high-profile. I was more of a scorer then, getting plays run for me. Right now, it's definitely different roles.''

    It has also been different paths for the two, almost from that day. Camby finished that season, winning national honors as player of the year and leading UMass to the Final Four. He joined the N.B.A. after that season, leaving a scandal behind him. Duncan stayed in school, was the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft and quickly ascended to the top of the sport. Camby, drafted by Toronto as the second overall pick, underachieved for the Raptors, and after being dealt to the Knicks during last year's draft, did little of notice before the playoffs.

    Duncan has the Knicks' attention.

    ''Not only is he the best player in the N.B.A.,'' Van Gundy said, ''but fundamentally, he is so sound in the way he plays the game. It's not a flashy, highlight reel. It's a coaching clinic. He has a fundamentally sound approach to the game. It's not an athletic game. To me, from a coach's standpoint, that's the beauty.''

    Duncan and Camby have met twice in the N.B.A., both last season when Camby was still with the Raptors. The Spurs won both games, with Duncan (15 and 24 points, 8 and 11 rebounds) decisively outplaying Camby (8 points and 5 rebounds each game).

    ''He makes everything look effortless,'' Camby said. ''He gets his points, but he also rebounds the ball extremely well. He's a presence on the defensive end. Definitely from four years ago when I played him to now, he's a totally different player, definitely a better player.''

    But if Duncan is the best player in the game, Camby accelerated his growth in the Indiana series, becoming one of the dominant players on the floor after Patrick Ewing went down with a torn Achilles' tendon.

    For Camby, the recent success brings back memories of college and the Final Four. While he cherishes the ride he is on, he realizes that his own part in it is far different from his days in college.

    ''I think it's more of knowing my role on this team,'' he said. ''College was different. I was the go-to guy, the guy getting the majority of shots, getting a lot of attention. Now on this ball club I've learned to accept my role. I'm feeling good and healthy, and my teammates are looking for me. That's key. You always want to feel wanted on a ball club and you always want to be a part of something special. Right now, that's how I feel.''

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    Nice find, thanks.

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    Here you go:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...amby,%20Marcus

    The first time they met, it was billed as the next big matchup, on a level with the battles between Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Now, when Marcus Camby sees Tim Duncan across the floor on Wednesday in the National Basketball Association finals, he sets it up as a matchup more like David versus Goliath.

    ''He's the best player in the league,'' Camby said of Duncan. ''I'm just trying to get up to where he's at. I'm just taking the same approach as our team has been taking, as the underdog. They're supposed to be the best team with the best record, and he's supposed to be the best player. But we still have to play the game and we're going to show up on Wednesday.''

    With the uncertain status of Larry Johnson, Camby is still not sure just what his role will be. Will he start or remain on the second unit? Will it be Duncan or David Robinson that he must try to contain? Coach Jeff Van Gundy may not be so sure of those answers yet, either, so for now, Camby is like an eager student, politely but excitedly raising his hand and hoping that the teacher will call his name.

    Camby has been tied to Duncan since they met on Dec. 6, 1995, when both were juniors in college. Camby got the better of Duncan that day, with his University of Massachusetts team beating Duncan's Wake Forest squad, 60-46, behind Camby's 17 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Duncan had just 9 points that day on 4-of-18 shooting, grabbing 12 rebounds and blocking 4 shots.

    ''That was four years ago; it seems like an eternity now,'' Camby said. ''I don't remember that much about the game. I know that we won. There was a lot of hoopla being built up. They were trying to make it a Chamberlain-Russell, Olajuwon-Ewing, stuff like that. They were really hyping the game up.

    ''But that was a long time ago. We were both young, young pups. It was different, with double- and triple-teaming, and zones. All I remember is the hype. It seems like in college it was a bigger level. They made a big thing of it. We were both high-profile. I was more of a scorer then, getting plays run for me. Right now, it's definitely different roles.''

    It has also been different paths for the two, almost from that day. Camby finished that season, winning national honors as player of the year and leading UMass to the Final Four. He joined the N.B.A. after that season, leaving a scandal behind him. Duncan stayed in school, was the No. 1 pick in the 1997 draft and quickly ascended to the top of the sport. Camby, drafted by Toronto as the second overall pick, underachieved for the Raptors, and after being dealt to the Knicks during last year's draft, did little of notice before the playoffs.

    Duncan has the Knicks' attention.

    ''Not only is he the best player in the N.B.A.,'' Van Gundy said, ''but fundamentally, he is so sound in the way he plays the game. It's not a flashy, highlight reel. It's a coaching clinic. He has a fundamentally sound approach to the game. It's not an athletic game. To me, from a coach's standpoint, that's the beauty.''

    Duncan and Camby have met twice in the N.B.A., both last season when Camby was still with the Raptors. The Spurs won both games, with Duncan (15 and 24 points, 8 and 11 rebounds) decisively outplaying Camby (8 points and 5 rebounds each game).

    ''He makes everything look effortless,'' Camby said. ''He gets his points, but he also rebounds the ball extremely well. He's a presence on the defensive end. Definitely from four years ago when I played him to now, he's a totally different player, definitely a better player.''

    But if Duncan is the best player in the game, Camby accelerated his growth in the Indiana series, becoming one of the dominant players on the floor after Patrick Ewing went down with a torn Achilles' tendon.

    For Camby, the recent success brings back memories of college and the Final Four. While he cherishes the ride he is on, he realizes that his own part in it is far different from his days in college.

    ''I think it's more of knowing my role on this team,'' he said. ''College was different. I was the go-to guy, the guy getting the majority of shots, getting a lot of attention. Now on this ball club I've learned to accept my role. I'm feeling good and healthy, and my teammates are looking for me. That's key. You always want to feel wanted on a ball club and you always want to be a part of something special. Right now, that's how I feel.''
    great work!

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    It would be like the old frontline with Tim and David, Although camby is not the offensive player David was. If possible I'd love it, I mean how would anyone score with those two in the paint, Then have Bowen, Ginobli, and Parker on the perimiter, We'd probly win it all.

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    If possible I'd love it, I mean how would anyone score with those two in the paint, Then have Bowen, Ginobli, and Parker on the perimiter, We'd probly win it all.
    Thats the problem, it aint possible. Its a pipedream that is brought up after each bad loss to make Spursfans feel a bit better, that be it.

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    Camby isn't a very good 1 on 1 defender, i still don't understand why he won DPOY

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    trade all of our picks and pay the tax Holt. we need to win now!

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    if clippers had to get rid of just a 2nd round pick maybe they would give rid of camby for ime,oberto and vaughn and maybe a second round draft pick with maybe tiago splitter in there also it free's up salary cap space for the clippers cuz there is no way there going to the playoffs this year and they could go after boozer this summer all the spurs need to do is to get there cheap owner to pull his check book out cheapo if he really wants to win another championship he's got to get camby he's everything we need

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