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trade Splitter for Alexis Ajinca
lol are you aware that youre setting yourself up?
trade Splitter for Alexis Ajinca
probably not much
Tiago just signed his new fat deal
I believe Rudy was toward the end of his previous deal he signed when he was younger and not a big a star
But he would have been in line for a big contract, alot bigger than his rookie deal.
I guess im just hoping if he potentially gave up millions, Tiago will do the same.
Splitter > Ajinca.
re: Fernandez
My understanding is that Portland sent a whole slew of front office bigwigs to Spain to get Fernandez to personally work at getting Fernandez to the states.
The Spurs?
RC, Lindsey, Pop (who was pre-occupied with the playoffs until about 3-5 days before the Splitter signing), Demps, whoever, none of them went to Spain to woo Splitter. All I can remember that was reported was that the Spurs had only a 'representative', which could have been a scout, an intern, a foreign agent doing the Spurs a favor or any other possibilty.
But the Spurs did their usual business of not kissing ass. Tell the player they're promised nothing, that Duncan isn't promised anything so they can't expect it either. The usual stuff that works awesome with veterans who are ring chasing after they've made their money.
So it wasn't exactly a big time effort to try to convince Splitter how important he was. Splitter had Tau on the one side begging and pleading and making their case personally and on the other side . . . who knows. Some guy with a blackberry taking directions from RC for all we know.
Splitter didn't screw over the Spurs.
Tau didn't screw over the Spurs.
The Spurs screwed themselves over.
To dump salary, they decided to trade Scola to a team that could pay him, HOU. By doing that, they left Tau short at the 4 spot. Tau breaks the bank for Splitter. If SA had just told Scola to himself and stay in Europe like he was threatening to, they'd be rocking Splitter right now.
They DON'T. NBA drafts them without their permission.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 01-27-2009 at 06:37 AM.
This will change under new rules. From next year on Splitter must play under same rules as NBA because Euroleague changed them. Even lane shape will be same as NBA. So by time he would come to Spurs he would be used to same type of play as in NBA game.
He was offered $63 million by CSKA but he wanted to play in NBA instead. But as I say many times in this forum Rudy is most overrated player in history of Europe.
Tiago > Rudy for sure.
one of your best posts on this forum.
Good one. However, I think some other club would break the bank for Splitter - what he's making takes an amazing effort for Tau to pay but it wouldn't be such a big effort for some richer clubs.
CSKA didn't offer Rudy that money. Anyway, I agree Rudy has been grossly over-hyped and overrated in the US (probably due to the Olympics finals). I'd much rather have Splitter than Rudy, undoubtedly.
Well I have an idea, but to make it happen we'd have to be the Lakers and the GM of the Wolves has to be Jerry West :
Rights to Splitter, Hill and re-signed on a 1-year contract Horry to match salaries + 2 first round picks for Al Jefferson.
Splitter is having a great season and ranks in Euroleague top five players, first among the bigs.
15 ppg with 67% shooting, averaging 24' of playtime.
Coming to town with TAU on Feb 25th.
jesus, how can you dare to work against the "the whole world of basketball tries to screw the Spurs" conspiracy theories? especially because you are right.
I think is a little misleading. He is not clear best big but one of 3 that are close I think.
Splitter
Bourousis
Pekovic
They are little different each of them. Splitter is more type of player maybe will fit next to Duncan. But Pekovic is far superior in offense and strength and post moves. But Tiago is much better than him in rebounding and defense. Bourousis is definitely all around better player than Splitter but Splitter is more athletic than him.
Bourousis is a better shooter by far than him though.
about the value of the Splitter rights:
as long as he is under contract in Europe and as long as the CBA isn't changed (which might happen 2011) and allows to pay late 1st round picks a bit more, the value of his rights are lower than a 2nd round pick.
no team that trades for this rights does have any guarantee that they will ever see Tiago in their uniform.
if he didn't want to play for about 1 million $ per for the Spurs (when making 4 or 5 times this money in Europe), why should he be willing to play for Thunder or Bobcats for this money.
but I see a silver lining. there might be some GMs, who are willing to gamble on him, because they believe they have a better position to bring him over and he fits into some long term plans and could bring a high reward.
this are IMO Heat and Knicks and to a lesser extent the Blazers.
Heat and Knicks offer a much bigger market, which would help to get Splitter better merchandise money to balance his low salary. especially south Florida, where the biggest Brazilian community in the states lives, could be attractive for Tiago. both teams plan big moves 2010 and could then be an attractive new team with a great future. Tiagos rights also doesn't hurt their cap space.
same with Blazers, but Portland isn't exactly as attractive as a destination as New York or Miami.
for the Spurs the Tiago rights are worthless IMO.
he will not come right now or 2009. so he won't help in the Duncan era. and I doubt he ever will, if the CBR isn't changed. but this won't happen until 2011 and Tiago's contract has a drop out clause 2010 and then will be extended to 2012. then Tim will likely retire.
if Tiago helps us to bring in a player right now, even a player with much less upside, it will be a much better deal for the Spurs. Tiago will be a helpful player, but not a franchise player.
the Splitter rights won't bring us a Haslem or Lee. maybe there is a small chance to get back a player like Cook or Chandler, if the Spurs add some more teaser, like 2nd rounders.
lol brilliant post. It's very obvious the Spurs completely and utterly ed this up.
great post..
the bolded part is basically what I was thinking..the main reason somebody would acquire Splitter would be for that reason..
Pretty much sums it up......
BTW, Splitters rights are worth about as much as a pile of dog right now since he's under contract with another club. No guarantees whatsoever to the holder.
The lesson of Splitter may be to strike while the iron is hot and not assume any future course of events.
The Spurs got way lucky with the Ginobili scenario -- "we can wait and call the shots" -- and have been trying to replay it ever since. With little success.
Ginobili may be the exception now, rather than the rule, because (1) the NBA is no longer the only place to play pro ball, (2) the US economy (and its dollar) are also relatively less attractive now, and (3) Ginobili was an especially loyal and appreciative personality -- a one in a million good guy star.
Don't count on that approach in the future -- if you like a guy lock him up pronto (and pay the price in the meantime, ala Mahinmi, if need be).
Last edited by Russ; 01-28-2009 at 07:44 PM.
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