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  1. #51
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    If he was that good, Boston would have kept him instead of trading him for KG.
    No one is saying he is better than KG. Pierce wants to win now, he wouldn't have been too happy if Boston didn't get KG when they were capable of doing so.

    How much the trade helped Boston is unrelated to whether or not it helped Minnesota, which it did. KG would have left Minnesota as a free agent, they were able to trade him for someone who is already a better offensive player.

  2. #52
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    Al is bad no doubt.

  3. #53
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    I try to avoid arguments about Bynum with Laker fans cause they often go nowhere, but Al Jefferson has been too good this year for someone to get away with calling Bynum better than him.
    Because Bynum is an overall better player than Al Jefferson. Al is nothing more than a ONE-WAY player and will never be anything else. Yes he has nice post moves but he gets overpowered just as much. You're severely underrating Bynum's post game as well. He has some of the best center footwork in the league.

    Considering Bynum is playing 3rd option right now and is still scoring 14 points a game in only 29 min is a testament of what he could do on a terrible team like Minny. Bynum would be dropping 18-21 easily if given the touches.

    Defensively, it isn't even close. Bynum is by far and away the superior defender on every level. Bynum's bonafide championship caliber anchor. Jefferson? Is a complete liability on the defensive end at the 4 or 5. His defense sucks, simple as that.
    Last edited by 21_Blessings; 01-27-2009 at 01:36 PM.

  4. #54
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Opposing Center PER

    Dwight Howard 14.6
    Yao Ming 14.6
    Andrew Bynum 14.8
    Shaq 16.1
    Tim Duncan 16.9
    Emeka Okafur 20.3
    Al Jefferson 20.4
    Last edited by Allanon; 01-27-2009 at 02:42 PM.

  5. #55
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    Because Bynum is an overall better player than Al Jefferson. Al is nothing more than a ONE-WAY player and will never be anything else. Yes he has nice post moves but he gets overpowered just as much. You're severely underrating Bynum's post game as well. He has some of the best center footwork in the league.

    Considering Bynum is playing 3rd option right now and is still scoring 14 points a game in only 29 min is a testament of what he could do on a terrible team like Minny. Bynum would be dropping 18-21 easily if given the touches.

    Defensively, it isn't even close. Bynum is by far and away the superior defender on every level. Bynum's bonafide championship caliber anchor. Jefferson? Is a complete liability on the defensive end at the 4 or 5. His defense sucks, simple as that.


    Reggie Miller agrees with you, Bynum is a superstar.

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    How much the trade helped Boston is unrelated to whether or not it helped Minnesota, which it did. KG would have left Minnesota as a free agent, they were able to trade him for someone who is already a better offensive player.
    How did it help Minnesota? They used to be able to make the playoffs with KG on board. They're nowhere near these last few seasons. And obviously neither big Al nor Love is going to take them over the top. The reality is that as soon as their contracts are up, they're going to end up in another team. As I said earlier, bigs with game are hard to come by, and I doubt very much any of them will want to stay in Minnesota if they can be contending for the le with Lakers/Boston/Miami/Hornets/Cavaliers,etc

  7. #57
    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    The Al trade was a good one. Quit crying.

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    Reggie Miller agrees with you, Bynum is a superstar.

    Still holding out hope for that playoff birth eh?

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    Still holding out hope for that playoff birth eh?
    I don't control what my team does, but I do make every effort not to look like a complete ing box. Try it sometime.

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    with the tough loss aside, Andrew Bynum had another explosive game tonight 41 minutes 24 points 10-14 shooting 14 rebounds and 6 blocks!! he's picking up where he left off from last year, beasting!!

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    but I do make every effort not to look like a complete ing box.
    And you fail miserably. Just like the Phoenix Suns.

  12. #62
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    Typical 21 Blessings. Using a person's team to represent that person.

    There is no bigger on SpursTalk than you, which is pretty ing impressive.

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    Dwight Howard 14.6
    Yao Ming 14.6
    Andrew Bynum 14.8
    Shaq 16.1
    Tim Duncan 16.9
    Emeka Okafur 20.3
    Al Jefferson 20.4
    Duncan is not a Center he is just considered as a Center

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    Dwight Howard 14.6
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    Andrew Bynum 14.8
    Shaq 16.1
    Tim Duncan 16.9
    Emeka Okafur 20.3
    Al Jefferson 20.4
    While i agree that Bynum is a good defender, those stats can be mis leading. Even though in majority of situations those guys will be defending the opposing Center, the team defense and moe so the Power Forward impact that guy defensively.

    Bynum has another 7'0" shotblocker next to him while the other 5 guys on that list have, Rashard Lewis, Amare, Matt Bonner, Boris Diaw and Graig Smith next to them - hardly a prescence defensively.

    If they beat their man or turn into the lane, whos waiting? That makes a bit of a difference.

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    Kendrick Perkins 13.7

    Dwight Howard 14.6
    Yao Ming 14.6
    Andrew Bynum 14.8
    Shaq 16.1
    Tim Duncan 16.9
    Emeka Okafur 20.3
    Al Jefferson 20.4
    Fixed.

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    Al Jefferson is a beast*


















































    *except when he has to play against Andrew Bynum or defense of any kind

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Yeah, I am really impressed with Drew.

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    Al Jefferson is a beast*


    *except when he has to play against Andrew Bynum or defense of any kind
    Uhhhhh then what was the 34 and 13 he put up tonight? Just curious.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    The majority of that was with Drew out the game. Al played a whole extra quarter than Drew.

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    The majority of that was with Drew out the game. Al played a whole extra quarter than Drew.
    So then I guess the Lakers as a team don't play "defense of any kind"?

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    Pretty much. But Drew brought it tonight. And it's no secret they don't play much D.

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    Pretty much. But Drew brought it tonight. And it's no secret they don't play much D.


    But duh Bynum brought it. I just think it's stupid that Lakers fans have to criticize Jefferson to build Bynum up.

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    Uhhhhh then what was the 34 and 13 he put up tonight? Just curious.
    On 27 shots, where most of his points coming from garbage time in the 4th

    Jefferson was 5-15 when Bynum sat down in the 3rd.

    Meanwhile Pau/Bynum scored 47 points on 26 shots with Jefferson giving up most of that

  24. #74
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    Al Jefferson is a really good player, but he must have played 40+ minutes. The guy was in the game the whole time.

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    But duh Bynum brought it. I just think it's stupid that Lakers fans have to criticize Jefferson to build Bynum up.
    But Jefferson was terrible tonight. Try watching the game sometime instead of masturbating over a stat-padded box score

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