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My what's up your butt was directed at you calling me a "typical biased spurs fan".
It's called sarcasm. Most of what spurs fans are proposing includes Oberto + Bowen or a package that nobody would want. Let's face it in order to get a big man worth a crap Mason would more than likely have to be included.
My what's up your butt was directed at you calling me a "typical biased spurs fan".
For saying Mason Oberto mahimni is too much for Kaman.
...yeah I got it. I asked what was up your butt. It is too much from the Spurs perspective. You're giving up three point shooting and a first round draft pick for Kaman. I don't think it's worth it.
lol your crazy
That is not too much at all. We got to the WCF without Mason last year and without Ian. We now have hill that can play some 1/2 and Ian is not playing this year and Fab is shaky at best.
Kaman is young and talented and is the best we could hope for from Ian anyways. It would be well worth it imo, but not enough to get the talented big man.
Biedrins from Golden State has been a pipe dream of mine for a long time. Too bad the Spurs have nothing substantial to give up outside the big 3 for anyone with youth and/or talent.
Why we are all wishing here i say lets go for kenyon Martin from Denver and Joe smith. For Manu Ginobli & Jaque Vaughn + Bowen if need be.
I meant JR Smith
Not Jow smith the old timer should be retired, although he probably plays better than some of ours.
Are you serious?
No way we give up Gino for that trash. No gino = no chip. Unless it is for a prime time, franchise caliber player (which is not going to happen) we must think of moves that keep the core intact.
I know we have all heard the cliche inorder to get a franchise player when have to give up one. We just have to find which 1 of ours if we had to give up one would be worth it and probably be better after trade. You have to think of it in a business sense not a fans point of view.
I say you can still win a championship with out a great pointguard, bit in this case TP is more productive than Manu is. Even if manu is un healthy his production is not were TP is.
SPURS have trouble this yr compared to yrs past becuase they have a smaller lineup thans yrs past. Hints thats why are defense is not as good. (interior) Bigger lineup makes it easier to score. ask the lakers, blazers, even cleveland, boston. Orlando they all have a big starting 5. Thats the truth.
I'm still wondering who the other franchise player is (other than Manu) in your original trade proposal.
I would give up Manu for Biedrins in a heartbeat.
It's always risky when you're trading for a guy who has been in Nellie's system. Is he big and athletic? Yeah. Does he benefit from the system? More than likely. It's just a question of how much he benefits from the system.
I think the only other player we can give would be TP, TD is going to start hitting his downward slope soon if not started already! thats just life as an athlete. TP stays healthy alot longer than ginobli. The guy is a better defender than TP and gives you passion like no other, but TP is consistent i just hate to give that up.
You night never be able to find another Manu that gives you the intangenables but the 14-16 points a game that Manu scores can be replaced with another that scores 14-16 pts a game. Alot of players in the leaque can do that.
He's also only 22, and doesnt need plays called for him to score. He has just always seemed like he would be the perfect fit.
Anthony Randolph only problem is that hes 19 and pop doesnt like young guys, but hes a beast.
I dont think its that POP doesnt like young players, its the fact he likes to stick with a surething. Youngs players are in consistent and thats what i think POP has a problem with. But lot back in the day He started TP, and look has even given G hill time, he's coming around!! He has to or the Leaque will pass the SPURS bye.
what about that french man, that players for Portland young guy athletic. We had a chance to draft him this yr but was selected by portland ahead of us. name starts with a B or something like that. Tall really athletic scored on us a bunch in the game i saw early in the season.
matt bonners value might be high enough for us to pull off a trade, hes serviceable and his contract expires in 2010. im not looking for a superstar or anything but we may be able to get that athletic big man we want. maybe a nick collison or a jeff foster type player.
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