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    The Lakers cannot beat the Celtics without Andrew Bynum. It's incredible to me how they even managed to win 2 games in that series being so undersized.
    The Lakers still cannot beat the Celtics in a 7 game series, Lakers are just to soft to with the Celtics. My two cents.

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    The Lakers cannot beat the Celtics without Andrew Bynum. It's incredible to me how they even managed to win 2 games in that series being so undersized.
    The Lakers weren't that undersized even without Bynum. They actually had size advantages at three of the positions. The bulk of Kendrick Perkins was the only real size mismatch. The rest of it was about toughness or lack of toughness. The Lakers added size with Bynum. They have yet to add toughness outside of Kobe and Fisher.

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    ^Exactly

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    The Lakers still cannot beat the Celtics in a 7 game series, Lakers are just to soft to with the Celtics. My two cents.
    complete rubbish

    lakers are more than tough enough and since when is being really tough deciding an NBA le? the only guys on the celtics that was tough was perkins, posey and PJ Brown...it's idiotic to even mention the way soft.

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    The Lakers weren't that undersized even without Bynum. They actually had size advantages at three of the positions. The bulk of Kendrick Perkins was the only real size mismatch. The rest of it was about toughness or lack of toughness. The Lakers added size with Bynum. They have yet to add toughness outside of Kobe and Fisher.
    I disagree.

    The Lakers don't need to be "tough" to beat the Celtics. They certainly didn't need to be "tough" to beat them X-mas day.

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    complete rubbish

    lakers are more than tough enough and since when is being really tough deciding an NBA le? the only guys on the celtics that was tough was perkins, posey and PJ Brown...it's idiotic to even mention the way soft.
    Everyone but KG, Big Baby and Tony Allen is tough on Boston.

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    But Idk who I want to win. Kobe has been humbled by that bad stretch, KG needs to be humbled as well. I'll be mad if Bynum has a huge finals and wins finals MVP, that dude needs to STFU.

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    I'll be going for the Cavs in the east and I guess the Spurs in the west, perhaps NO if they can get in gear.

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    complete rubbish

    lakers are more than tough enough and since when is being really tough deciding an NBA le? the only guys on the celtics that was tough was perkins, posey and PJ Brown...it's idiotic to even mention the way soft.
    Really? Celtics can still kick that ass if they played in the playoffs, I hate the Celtics but even I must admit that when it comes to locking players down they can do it, if the Celtics play the Lakers tough the Lakers will crumble. The point Im trying to prove has already been proven last year in the finals, and yes toughness does matter in the Nba finals. If one team plays tougher than the other in the finals it can turn the other team into jumpshooters which is exactly what The Celts did and would do to them if they play again in the finals.

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    Really? Celtics can still kick that ass if they played in the playoffs, I hate the Celtics but even I must admit that when it comes to locking players down they can do it, if the Celtics play the Lakers tough the Lakers will crumble. The point Im trying to prove has already been proven last year in the finals, and yes toughness does matter in the Nba finals. If one team plays tougher than the other in the finals it can turn the other team into jumpshooters which is exactly what The Celts did and would do to them if they play again in the finals.
    Celtics only beat the lakers due to lakers having no interior defensive presents and no rebounding inside. They also had no good permeter defender like Ariza who can also score off the bench.

    had nothing to do with lack of toughness.

    with Bynum playing like he is and Ariza back 100% heathly the lakers will not lose to the celtics who are worse than last year. Having Posey and Brown was also a big reason why they won...they are now gone

    don't buy at all Boston will be able to beat L.A.

    boston will be lucky to get to the finals this year

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    Celtics only beat the lakers due to lakers having no interior defensive presents and no rebounding inside. They also had no good permeter defender like Ariza who can also score off the bench.

    had nothing to do with lack of toughness.

    with Bynum playing like he is and Ariza back 100% heathly the lakers will not lose to the celtics who are worse than last year. Having Posey and Brown was also a big reason why they won...they are now gone

    don't buy at all Boston will be able to beat L.A.

    boston will be lucky to get to the finals this year
    Really? Resorting to jumpshooting is not lack of toughness?! Pau Gasol getting forced by KG to shoot fadeway jumphooks is not lack of toughness? Allowing the other team to push you around and dunk on you is not lack of toughness?! Getting blown out by 39 points in Game 6 of the NBA FINALS is not lack of toughness?!

    Celtics > Lakers in the Nba finals. But you are right that they will be lucky to make it to the Finals this year because other teams will not allow the Celtics to push them around the way the Lakers did last year in the Finals.

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    as strange as this sounds, i hope the rockets get their together. right now they are the only team with enough talent to challenge the lakers. i do not want to see another lakers boston final. this is probably the only team in the west that is as loaded as the lakers in terms of talent.

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    ABF

    Anybody but the Fakers.

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    The Lakers cannot beat the Celtics without Andrew Bynum. It's incredible to me how they even managed to win 2 games in that series being so undersized.
    Hmm, I figured House would be a boston fan, or some east coast team, not the Lakers

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    Last season, before the Finals, the Lakers were overwhelming favourites. I still remember what experts, writers and Lakers fans were saying at the time.

    All these months later, the Celtics are still a fairly superior rebounding and defensive team.
    Last edited by mogrovejo; 01-27-2009 at 06:10 PM.

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    Last season, before the Finals, the Lakers were overwhelming favourites. I still remember what experts, writers and Lakers were saying at the time.

    All these months later, the Celtics are still a fairly superior rebounding and defensive team.
    The C's are simply a superior team period. However, even you must admit the loss of Posey is going to hurt if Boston plays LA again in the Finals. That guy was nailing clutch shots on one end and playing great D on the other. I don't know if the C's have both of those things in any one player outside of the big 3 now.

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    The C's are simply a superior team period. However, even you must admit the loss of Posey is going to hurt if Boston plays LA again in the Finals. That guy was nailing clutch shots on one end and playing great D on the other. I don't know if the C's have both of those things in any one player outside of the big 3 now.
    Agreed. Posey is a great player, he just delivers the pork to every team he's playing for.

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    I disagree.

    The Lakers don't need to be "tough" to beat the Celtics. They certainly didn't need to be "tough" to beat them X-mas day.
    Any NBA team can beat another NBA team in one game under the right cir stances. , we've seen the Oklahoma City Thunder beat some decent NBA teams and they have the worst talent in the league.

    It takes toughness to beat a good to great team in a playoff series.

    You talk about an early regular season game like it actually matters. Your fellow Laker fans would laugh at that kind of logic.

    Phil Jackson and Kobe themselves specifically said they needed to be tougher this season. And, you're saying they don't need to be tougher? They have yet to really shown they're "tougher" this season. They haven't physically dominated a good team yet. Beat good teams? Yes. With finesse and high shooting percentages. Have they beat a really good team in a grind it out, half court possession, low scoring, defensive game. They can't do that. They have yet to prove they can win that way. That's the type of game in the playoffs they would have to win. They haven't proven they're tough enough to win that kind of game yet.

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    Tough...hahahahaha Lakers will beat them as long as they stay healthy. I'm thinking Celtics won't make it make it back so its a mute point,

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    But god damn, It would kill me if that ******* KG would get another ring.

    I want the Spurs win the championship more than anything but suprisingly the feeling of wanting to see KG fail&cry is almost just as strong!

    So if the Spurs dont get to the finals this years please destroy the green punks.

    the Celtics!!!
    Root for Cleveland or Orlando. They're the only other teams that have a shot, and Orlando is a darkhorse and nothing more at this point.

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    Any NBA team can beat another NBA team in one game under the right cir stances. , we've seen the Oklahoma City Thunder beat some decent NBA teams and they have the worst talent in the league.

    It takes toughness to beat a good to great team in a playoff series.

    You talk about an early regular season game like it actually matters. Your fellow Laker fans would laugh at that kind of logic.

    Phil Jackson and Kobe themselves specifically said they needed to be tougher this season. And, you're saying they don't need to be tougher? They have yet to really shown they're "tougher" this season. They haven't physically dominated a good team yet. Beat good teams? Yes. With finesse and high shooting percentages. Have they beat a really good team in a grind it out, half court possession, low scoring, defensive game. They can't do that. They have yet to prove they can win that way. That's the type of game in the playoffs they would have to win. They haven't proven they're tough enough to win that kind of game yet.
    The BOS game was precisely that. It was a grind-it-out game the whole way through. The Lakers put the clamps on BOS defensively in the 4th and held them to under 20 pts and as a result they won the game. The Lakers barely hit the 100 mark.

    The Lakers have proven they can win any kind of game. Slow it down, speed it up, it doesn't ing matter. They have all the mental toughness they need. What they were missing was size and a physical presence in the paint to deal with Perkins and KG and thwart Allen, Pierce, and Rondo from attacking the rim relentlessly. Now they have that.

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    The BOS game was precisely that. It was a grind-it-out game the whole way through. The Lakers put the clamps on BOS defensively in the 4th and held them to under 20 pts and as a result they won the game. The Lakers barely hit the 100 mark.

    The Lakers have proven they can win any kind of game. Slow it down, speed it up, it doesn't ing matter. They have all the mental toughness they need. What they were missing was size and a physical presence in the paint to deal with Perkins and KG and thwart Allen, Pierce, and Rondo from attacking the rim relentlessly. Now they have that.
    Regular Season Thread.

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    Regular Season Thread.
    blah

    his post proved exactly why the lakers will likely win the le this year. adding their center and a heathly Ariza there should be no way the lakers lose if they stay healthly.

    the lakers have proved they can win in any style of game.

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    lakers aren't scary. they are a great team however. Being scared and crowning their asses already is a mistake. THey are a great finesse team, not a dominant team.

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    blah

    his post proved exactly why the lakers will likely win the le this year. adding their center and a heathly Ariza there should be no way the lakers lose if they stay healthly.

    the lakers have proved they can win in any style of game.
    Blah. He always says regular season games do not matter. Except for one (when the Lakers beat Boston). None else matter. Just terrible logic.

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