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    I'd say hes 85%

    His jumper is still very erratic, and he can't be relied on 100%

    It's fantastic to see him though finally be aggressive and driving to the basket with his head down.

    Great to see.
    I agree. I think he's about 85%. Some here say his jumper has always been erratic, and that's true to an extent. That is to say that he'll get on hot streaks where he tears it up. But over the last couple seasons, it's not as though we saw Manu go for several games at a time where he couldn't connect from outside (as we sometimes see with Finley these days).

    And you have to take notice of the fact that he's been a 40% 3pt shooter over the last couple years, and right now, he's at 32.5%. So no one can credibly make "he's all the way back... his shot is always this inconsistent" argument.

    He's just now starting to really round into shape, physically and mentally... so I'm confident that the shot will return to him soon.

    Manu is THE key to the Spurs le hopes. I've heard a couple of announcers from other teams say that Manu was a legitimate MVP candidate for about 2/3 of last season. And they're right. He is capable of playing at MVP levels. When he's 100% and has the outside shot and his quickness working for him, along with the intangibles (drawing charges, the energy he brings to the team, etc.)... he can be one of the top 5-10 players in the league.

    THAT'S what we'll need against the Lakers. If we get that from Manu, the Spurs are as good as ANY team in the league. If not, there's no hope. But as long as he's healthy when the nearly inevitable Lakers-Spurs rematch rolls around... I like our chances.

    Manu's ankle situation robbed basketball fans everywhere from one of a Kobe/Manu show. Hopefully we'll get to see that in the spring.

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    Sit him out and give the minutes to hairston and udoka.

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    So you are still part of the "Let's trade him" camp . . . ?

    I never thought I would ever see this Manu ever again. I'm happy I was dead wrong. as far as loyalty, I'm way more loyal to my team as Manu is to his other team.

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    I don't agree with putting him on the shelf but a DNP-CD tomorrow against the Nuggets wouldn't be a bad idea. He took a pounding against the Warriors and didn't look too healthy at the end of the game.

    You sit him against the Nuggets and he doesn't have to play again until Sunday against the Celtics.
    In the post game with Shoening he said he was very very tired

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    I never thought I would ever see this Manu ever again. I'm happy I was dead wrong. as far as loyalty, I'm way more loyal to my team as Manu is to his other team.

    Man… I finally get it….. your problem is that Ginobili played for his NT …. I don’t blame you no more… I now understand your hate.

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    The real Manu is a guy who can score 30 pts 3 straight games but also a guy who can score 6 points 3 straight games. He is not consistent, a streaky player.

    The key is for the real MAnu to show up 4 times in a 7 game series.

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    The real Manu is a guy who can score 30 pts 3 straight games but also a guy who can score 6 points 3 straight games. He is not consistent, a streaky player.

    The key is for the real MAnu to show up 4 times in a 7 game series.
    when Manu isn't injured, he is very consistent in playoff games. He's either very good or superman.

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    I never thought I would ever see this Manu ever again. I'm happy I was dead wrong. as far as loyalty, I'm way more loyal to my team as Manu is to his other team.
    Do you understand that Manu's ankle getting finally and totally ed up while playing for Argentina in the sumer was probably the best thing that could happen to the Spurs? That thing needed surgery and woulda eventually blown out in the middle of the season if not for the Olympics. Manu'd probably be out for the season now if it wasn't for that.

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    when Manu isn't injured, he is very consistent in playoff games. He's either very good or superman.

    Was he injured in 2007? he had like an 0-7 game in the Finals if I recall... he's had a lot of single digit scoring games in his playoff career.

    Again, I dunno if he was injured or not that year

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    Do you understand that Manu's ankle getting finally and totally ed up while playing for Argentina in the sumer was probably the best thing that could happen to the Spurs? That thing needed surgery and woulda eventually blown out in the middle of the season if not for the Olympics. Manu'd probably be out for the season now if it wasn't for that.
    so he was doing a favor to the spurs

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    I'm glad to see this more aggressive version of Manu's game back. I like that their feeding the ball to him in motion and closer to the paint vs. giving him the ball out in no-man's land where he seems kinda predictable. Let's face it, hardly anyone's falling for his up-fake from beyond the arc anymore.

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    so he was doing a favor to the spurs
    I didn't say that, I said that instead of about it you should be thankful.

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    Was he injured in 2007? he had like an 0-7 game in the Finals if I recall... he's had a lot of single digit scoring games in his playoff career.

    Again, I dunno if he was injured or not that year
    so you're a str8 up hater. don't mind criticizing players if you come with facts, but you''re making up crap and I don't know how to play that game.

    Manu had one bad game shooting that series, but made up for it with defense and assists. The rest of the series he was nails! He put up Tim Duncan like numbers.

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    I didn't say that, I said that instead of about it you should be thankful.
    because he did me a favor?

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    because he did me a favor?
    If you're a Spurs fan, he unintentionally did make you a favor. He didn't screw you up that's for sure.

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    If you're a Spurs fan, he unintentionally did make you a favor. He didn't screw you up that's for sure.
    it sure is looking like we lucked out.

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    it sure is looking like we lucked out.
    Sometimes is better to be lucky than good.

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    Do you understand that Manu's ankle getting finally and totally ed up while playing for Argentina in the sumer was probably the best thing that could happen to the Spurs?
    Myth.

    Manu was getting that surgery even if he skipped the Olympics. The only difference is that the timing of the surgery if he skipped the Olympics would have allowed him to be healthy for the beginning of the season.

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    Myth.

    Manu was getting that surgery even if he skipped the Olympics. The only difference is that the timing of the surgery if he skipped the Olympics would have allowed him to be healthy for the beginning of the season.
    I don't know about that. I heard Manu himself said that he getting injured in the Olympics may have been the best thing that could'd happened to him and the Spurs.

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    Myth.

    Manu was getting that surgery even if he skipped the Olympics. The only difference is that the timing of the surgery if he skipped the Olympics would have allowed him to be healthy for the beginning of the season.
    that's what I thought. Plus, playing in the Olympics he took the chance of making the injury much worse or injuring something else by overcompensating, no?

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    I don't know about that. I heard Manu himself said that he getting injured in the Olympics may have been the best thing that could'd happened to him and the Spurs.
    And not to mention the chance/confidence that Mason and Hill gained with Manu and Tony's injuries. If you give me to choose I wouldn't change a single thing of what happen seeing how things turned out.

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    I never thought I would ever see this Manu ever again.
    You are a man of little faith.


    I'm happy I was dead wrong.

    I'm happy too.


    as far as loyalty, I'm way more loyal to my team as Manu is to his other team.

    Well, I wonder if you were given the chance of defending your country in an Olympic Game or playing for an NBA team what your choice would be.

    As for for how much Manu gives to the Spurs . . . well it is pretty obvious and you can tell by watching him night in and night out. Even when he is sucking, he gives 110%. And he has been doing it consistently since he joined the Spurs.

    And how would you feel if his ankle would brake right about now? (because after last year's WCF, it was pretty obvious it was going to brake, the question was when)

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    You are a man of little faith.
    I only have faith in Jesus and not basketball players. Love Manu, but I thought his boneheadness was catching up with him.




    I'm happy too.
    tell me you don't have relief too.




    Well, I wonder if you were given the chance of defending your country in an Olympic Game or playing for an NBA team what your choice would be.
    I love my country, but I'm not going to risk my career over a basketball game, because at the end of the day that's all that was.

    As for for how much Manu gives to the Spurs . . . well it is pretty obvious and you can tell by watching him night in and night out. Even when he is sucking, he gives 110%. And he has been doing it consistently since he joined the Spurs.
    He needs to use some smarts along with his intensity. For as great as he is, he can make some boneheaded decisions. playing for argentina when his ankle was going to break like you say is about the dumbest thing ever.


    And how would you feel if his ankle would brake right about now? (because after last year's WCF, it was pretty obvious it was going to brake, the question was when)
    very obvious and I defended his play more than anybody on this board. Timvp and Kori tried to tell everyone that Manu was healthy or even 90% healthy against NO and LA and I argued with them all the time. Now I think you would agree I was right, so why in the would Manu continue playing, risking his career, and not fix the ankle?

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    I don't agree with putting him on the shelf but a DNP-CD tomorrow against the Nuggets wouldn't be a bad idea. He took a pounding against the Warriors and didn't look too healthy at the end of the game.

    You sit him against the Nuggets and he doesn't have to play again until Sunday against the Celtics.
    I kept thinking to myself, "this man is going to be in a wheelchair when he's done with playing basketball." It's amazing how he puts his body on the line on every play.

    But I doubt Manu concedes to sitting out unless pop forces him, and by that I mean he sets up a trap, where like a cage comes down from the ceiling over him.

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    that's what I thought. Plus, playing in the Olympics he took the chance of making the injury much worse or injuring something else by overcompensating, no?
    The Manu Olympic debacle should be water under the bridge.

    The fact is, no more Olympic gold medal runs in sight, Manu is stuck with us and the SPURS, and he will help deliver more championships while our window is open for a couple more years.


    I think it's kinda pointless to rationalize "actually things turned out better that he played/ actually things would have been better if he didn't"

    Let's just say we're lucky that Manu wasn't out for too long after surgery, and that right now we are closing the gap with the Lakers.

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