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Sorry about that clambake. That sucks.
I agree.
Sorry about that clambake. That sucks.
Sorry for the barb.
ehh......revolution is more of a proactive action while desperation is more reactive......
Define what crime(s) exactly you think will increase
i'm sorry for the people. some have been with me for 7+ years.
unemployment is going to explode. we haven't seen anything, yet.
I believe you. Good time to go back to school to become more valuable.
I have been thinking this exactly. I should, just to give you guys a break.
not the crime committed, but the actors committing it, and the reasons for these actions will not reflect the motives of your common criminal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/ny...ewanted=1&_r=1
AbridgedIt is the question on the minds of New Yorkers, once they stop pondering the fate of their 401(k)’s: If the city’s economy sinks to depths not seen in decades, will crime return with a vengeance?
Expert opinions differ, but the question is hardly illogical. The last time stocks on Wall Street fell hard, in 1987, crime was exploding, and the city saw historic highs in murders in the following years.
Before that, the fiscal crisis of the 1970s helped lead to the abandonment of neighborhoods, failing schools and startling crime rates: robberies built through those years to a high in 1981, when there were 107,495 of them, for an average of 294 a day. (Last year’s total reported robberies, 21,787, was the lowest figure in modern history.)
“Every recession since the late ’50s has been associated with an increase in crime and, in particular, property crime and robbery, which would be most responsive to changes in economic conditions,” said Richard Rosenfeld, a sociologist at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. Typically, he said, “there is a year lag between the economic change and crime rates.”
uh, ok. I'd ask for examples, but I don't really want to go down that road.
americans are too fat and lazy to be blue collar criminals
I think he was just saying that more normal people will resort to crime. People who maybe don't fit the normal profile for their particular crime.
How about no-collar criminals?
seriously, the only violent revolution we'll have is if krispy kreme goes out of business and the government refuses to bail them out
I'd ask what you mean by "normal"........but I know what you mean....
Is the US an empire, yes or no?
ES sees us as an oligarchy: we're their ball-gargle. This interpretation goes back as far as you care to grow.
I say yes.
I think something very similar to ES, but would stress the dimensions that the Cold War, national security state and Great Society have added to the Beast.
uh im pretty sure being the only superpower in the world in the only time in history assures us as being considered an empire.
I thought I'd try to revive the spirit of the OP, is all.
I don't like trying to put classifications on things much.......
but what is the definition we are using for 'empire'? It apparently can mean different things. ES says he doesn't mean empire in terms of the US having states (territories?) across the globe but instead he turns it and says look at it in a domestic light.
Well, in historical terms, an empire has nothing but global connotations to it. As Wine pointed out, what he is saying really is that we are an oligarchy.........which I have no problems with. Hard to argue that since most of the politicians come from families that have acquired great amounts of wealth over many generations.
That said, even though we have a small list of rich people to pick our politicians from, we still picked Obama......who didn't really come from a family that had generations of wealth.
, maybe we aren't even talking about politicians. If you wanna say this country's policies are controlled by big businesses, then I can't really argue that much and in that sense, we are definitely an oligarchy.
Which empire is more powerful......the USA or WalMart? If the U.S went to war with Wal Mart, I wouldn't put it past Wal Mart employees to successfully employ guerilla tactics, using all of those rifles and ammo from the outdoors section.
Our patriotic stormtroopers will crush them; our patriotic accountants will feed on their remains.
Wal-Mart vs. USA?
USA, all the way.
All we'd have to do is give $800 Trillion to Target. Problem solved, war over.
"in historical terms, an empire has nothing but global connotations to it."
In which historical terms, exactly? Until the colonial era, empires were regional, with the exception of the Mongols.
Oh, and the Ottomans. The caliphate was seriously huge up until WWI. Read about it and think about how that might affect a Muslim's view of the world. OK, separate topic.
It is striking how Islamic heraldry as reflected on the various national flags now has such a strongly Ottoman flavor. Take your star and crescent, for example. It is a Turkish imperial symbol.
Are you familiar with that flick where Ben Kingsley plays an aging and insignificant Ottoman spy? You probably already knew Turkey at one time had the world's largest intelligence bureau.
Oh well. Anyway. Thanks for the OP. Looks like some people don't want to say what they really think. Can't say I much blame em.
How do we take over? We all gather up our guns and march to DC and demand them all to resign? How do we revolutionize without us having to face one of the strongest military in the world?
I agree that a majority of the people fall into that category, and that is truly sad. I won't claim that others like don't. I know people off all walks of life have those who do and do not fall into that category.
In general, I agree.
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