Is Manu Ginobili Just A Jump Shooter These Days?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I've got a new v-Bookie idea... here it goes:

How many of the ing re s in this thread are going to be back on Manu's nuts when he has another great game?

a) 1
b) 2
c) 3
d) Every one except ducks and rascal

You people are ing laughable! not one ounce of backbone. A little trouble comes your way and you'd trade your ing grandmother. When Manu is back to his old self, your going to be on an all crow diet for a long time mother ers.

ahem...

[m33p0]

ahem...

[urunobili]

manu provin me right, game after game

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[rascal]

What Silence.

Trade manu now after these couple of good games. He goes hot and cold often and is not consistent enough to be an all star caliber player.

[DAF86]

What Silence.

Trade manu now after these couple of good games. He goes hot and cold often and is not consistent enough to be an all star caliber player.

His scoring may go off and on often but 99% of the times he finds a way to have a positive imprint on a basketball game.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

What Silence.

Trade manu now after these couple of good games. He goes hot and cold often and is not consistent enough to be an all star caliber player.

ahem...

I've got a new v-Bookie idea... here it goes:

How many of the ing re s in this thread are going to be back on Manu's nuts when he has another great game?

a) 1
b) 2
c) 3
d) Every one except ducks and rascal

You people are ing laughable! not one ounce of backbone. A little trouble comes your way and you'd trade your ing grandmother. When Manu is back to his old self, your going to be on an all crow diet for a long time mother ers.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

At least rascal is consistent in his hating

[roycrikside]

What Silence.

Trade manu now after these couple of good games. He goes hot and cold often and is not consistent enough to be an all star caliber player.

Manu, having a down year: 11th in NBA with a 23.03 PER

Tony having a career year: 16th in NBA with a 22.06 PER

Yeah, Manu is inconsistent alright, sometimes he's good, other times he's awesome.

[vander]

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yep, a couple high scoring games against poor Defenses and it's the 05 manu again.
I thought you guys could be a little more objective and reasonable that that, wait, no actually I didn't
apparently every time Manu puts up 25+ points then I am "owned" ok then, but when he fails to do anything against the good defenses we will face in the playoffs, and it turns out that I was right all along, please do me a favor and never post here again

[it's me]

yep, a couple high scoring games against poor Defenses and it's the 05 manu again.
I thought you guys could be a little more objective and reasonable that that, wait, no actually I didn't
apparently every time Manu puts up 25+ points then I am "owned" ok then, but when he fails to do anything against the good defenses we will face in the playoffs, and it turns out that I was right all along, please do me a favor and never post here again

Post after post

[rascal]

At least rascal is consistent in his hating

Not hating on anything. Manu is not an all star quality player. Only one gift all star apprearance where his stats were not even as good as others who did not make the team that year and no other all star appearances and he is now considered an all star player here. A true all star consistently will make the all star team and thats not Manu.

He is over hyped here because this is a Spurs board.


He does not put up the stats, does not play the minutes that the true stars play. He is a solid 2nd level player and if the spurs can get some real frontline star talent for him now they should let him go. With mason and Hill they are still solid at the 2 guard spot.

The Spurs will need the luck of injuries to the lakers if they have any chance to win this year.

[DAF86]

Not hating on anything. Manu is not an all star quality player. Only one gift all star apprearance where his stats were not even as good as others who did not make the team that year and no other all star appearances and he is now considered an all star player here. A true all star consistently will make the all star team and thats not Manu.

He is over hyped here because this is a Spurs board.


He does not put up the stats, does not play the minutes that the true stars play. He is a solid 2nd level player and if the spurs can get some real frontline star talent for him now they should let him go. With mason and Hill they are still solid at the 2 guard spot.

The Spurs will need the luck of injuries to the lakers if they have any chance to win this year.

All stars games are overrated, stats too.

How do you explain that IYO he isn't an all-star, doesn't have the stats and yet when he's done will get to the Hall of fame.

[2centsworth]

Not hating on anything. Manu is not an all star quality player. Only one gift all star apprearance where his stats were not even as good as others who did not make the team that year and no other all star appearances and he is now considered an all star player here. A true all star consistently will make the all star team and thats not Manu.

He is over hyped here because this is a Spurs board.


He does not put up the stats, does not play the minutes that the true stars play. He is a solid 2nd level player and if the spurs can get some real frontline star talent for him now they should let him go. With mason and Hill they are still solid at the 2 guard spot.

The Spurs will need the luck of injuries to the lakers if they have any chance to win this year.

you're right up there with the parker haters.

2nd level player not many players can reach the heights that Manu can reach, especailly in 4th quarters. Now is he inconsistent, yes, but mainly because of injury.

[DAF86]

If we go by stats Bowen shouldn't deserve to be called a NBA player, and yet he was/is one of the main players in a three times championship team.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

All stars games are overrated, stats too.

How do you explain that IYO he isn't an all-star, doesn't have the stats and yet when he's done will get to the Hall of fame.

all star games measure the player.. I'd prefer Manu not even pay attention to his stats if it means having to play well and put up gawdy numbers in the first half of the long ass season.

I'm sure Manu envy the David Wests of the league.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

yep, a couple high scoring games against poor Defenses and it's the 05 manu again.
I thought you guys could be a little more objective and reasonable that that, wait, no actually I didn't
apparently every time Manu puts up 25+ points then I am "owned" ok then, but when he fails to do anything against the good defenses we will face in the playoffs, and it turns out that I was right all along, please do me a favor and never post here again

Keep moving those cones, man, last week you weren't convinced because it was merely the Suns and you were doubtful Manu would put up a good game afterwards because of that. You also said that Manu sucked because he was bailed out by questionable referee ticky tack fouls. A week prior to THAT, you said something basically akin Manu is slow and will never get to the rack, so he has to rely on his jumper being on.
Three good games later, making about what, 35 out of 36 FT's? All due to Ref's , now it's the teams with ty defense.

[vander]

Keep moving those cones, man, last week you weren't convinced because it was merely the Suns and you were doubtful Manu would put up a good game afterwards because of that. You also said that Manu sucked because he was bailed out by questionable referee ticky tack fouls. A week prior to THAT, you said something basically akin Manu is slow and will never get to the rack, so he has to rely on his jumper being on.
Three good games later, making about what, 35 out of 36 FT's? All due to Ref's , now it's the teams with ty defense.

what is golden state's defense ranked?

but that's hardly the point, I'm talking about the big picture, Manu's ability to help us win the le this year and future years. you guys are living and dieing with each little game. thinking that one good week means everything, but it doesn't; Manu putting up 30 in an OT game against the worst D in the league means nothing, even if Manu were to put up 30 against a better D without OT, it doesn't change who he is and what his abilities and limitations are. scrubs all through the league can do these things from time to time during the regular season.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

what is golden state's defense ranked?

but that's hardly the point, I'm talking about the big picture, Manu's ability to help us win the le this year and future years. you guys are living and dieing with each little game. thinking that one good week means everything, but it doesn't; Manu putting up 30 in an OT game against the worst D in the league means nothing, even if Manu were to put up 30 against a better D without OT, it doesn't change who he is and what his abilities and limitations are. scrubs all through the league can do these things from time to time during the regular season.

Now you're insinuating Manu is a scrub? Yeah, you're not a hater at all. Why don't you do everyone a favor and just come out with it. You don't like the dude for personal reasons, period.

The "I'm an unbiased Spurs fan" bull isn't going to cut it vander, I've been reading your bull takes about Manu for over a year now. This isn't a recent development. Its just that Manu has been off this season, and your sorry ass now feels justified.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

God, this thread really looks re ed since the Phoenix game.


If your team's in a rut
If a star player on the team looks washed up
A game against the Suns can solve your problems.

[Indazone]

Now this is T-Mac syndrome. Settling for outside jumpers when you could be taking it to the rack.

[vander]

Now you're insinuating Manu is a scrub? Yeah, you're not a hater at all. Why don't you do everyone a favor and just come out with it. You don't like the dude for personal reasons, period.

The "I'm an unbiased Spurs fan" bull isn't going to cut it vander, I've been reading your bull takes about Manu for over a year now. This isn't a recent development. Its just that Manu has been off this season, and your sorry ass now feels justified.

he's no scrub, but he's no game changer anymore either, he's just a little better than Mason IMO, and Mason has gotten worse and worse since Manu came back, Manu leaving would allow Mason to flourish again, a few more minutes to Mason, Hill, Fin, and Bowen and we hardly miss Manu in the backcourt, while potentially upgrading our frontcourt for many years.
unless you think KT and Fabs are the present and Mahimni and Splitter are the future

[mystargtr34]

he's no scrub, but he's no game changer anymore either, he's just a little better than Mason IMO, and Mason has gotten worse and worse since Manu came back, Manu leaving would allow Mason to flourish again, a few more minutes to Mason, Hill, Fin, and Bowen and we hardly miss Manu in the backcourt, while potentially upgrading our frontcourt for many years.
unless you think KT and Fabs are the present and Mahimni and Splitter are the future

You do realise Manu is giving the Spurs 15.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG and 3.4 APG in 26.9 Minutes, coming back from ankle surgery. The only numbers he is really down on is his 3PT%.

Your not a complete bag of , but your only just a little better than ducks.

[vander]

You do realise Manu is giving the Spurs 15.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG and 3.4 APG in 26.9 Minutes, coming back from ankle surgery. The only numbers he is really down on is his 3PT%.

Your not a complete bag of , but your only just a little better than ducks.

that was actually kinda funny

but back when Mason was the man, he was giving us 15/4/2.5, and I think he would only improve on that as he meshes with this team through the course of the season.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You do realise Manu is giving the Spurs 15.8 PPG, 4.6 RPG and 3.4 APG in 26.9 Minutes, coming back from ankle surgery. The only numbers he is really down on is his 3PT%.

Your not a complete bag of , but your only just a little better than ducks.

No he's worse than ducks. He lies to himself about this "optimal trade B.S." which doesn't even make sense because you can imagine all these scenarios without regarding the risk to improve our front court. This guy, as a fan, doesn't realize that no matter how much you plan, and no matter how conservative you are in making sure you have the best chances to win a 'ship, a championship is never guaranteed.

It's like this weird state of denial where he can't outright say he hates Manu and that he wishes he's washed up for good. Instead he keeps changing his story. The "need" for a big man is just expedient at the moment. This guy has been hating on Manu even before our front court problems were glaring and before the Splitter debacle. The front court trade B.S. is just a convenient front for him.
I'd believe his sincerity more if he wouldn't keep changing his story every five minutes.

Now all of a sudden Manu is holding Roger Mason back

That's a new one!