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    Pdt Spurs Nation France JP le Requin's Avatar
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    maybe a scoop lol but TP said himself "WHY NOT WHY NOT, to play for ASVEL when i will be 36 or 37 years old...for my jubilé"

    TP bought parts from french basketball club ASVEL, he wants to do like David Beckam with facilities for training basketball young people, to make ASVEL a big european club, the only one in france to have potential (my opinion) etc..
    http://static.itele.fr/itele/index.html
    i saw this on Itélé, french infos tv

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    He hasn't taken parts yet but is about to. He's gonna be the 2nd biggest shareholder and president of BB operations

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    He hasn't taken parts yet but is about to. He's gonna be the 2nd biggest shareholder and president of BB operations
    Edit ok, article sport24

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    it's something to do after his life in the NBA.

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    je l'ai entendu sur I TELE il y a 2h...
    i heard it on french tv

    and yes dont worry its his far future...when he will be close to stop basket

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    An article (in French) about it:
    http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&i...cursor_start=0

    The big deal is Parker will buy parts of l'ASVEL. Parker did it years ago with a team in Paris (and it ends up as a failure) but it was more a sentimental thing. This time it's more business related. They are trying to build a big BB team in France.

    In 2009-2010, the Euroleague format will change. For the first time, 16 teams will be automatically qualified for it and won't have to compete to keep an Euroleague roster spot (like in the NBA where teams are sure to be in the NBA for years).
    L'ASVEL (a team near Lyon) will try to get one of these 16 spots and they should be able to get one.

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    where is Alain Gilles ?

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    There goes the 2019-2020 season

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    There goes the 2019-2020 season

    We never would have had a chance anyway. The Barcelona Hornets are going to be too good that year.

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    What is funny/strange is that the coach of L'ASVEL will likely be the coach of French NT. Parker will play for a coach who is his employee.

    On a side note, Parker has also said that he wanted to join French NT as soon as early July this summer. If things went well, French NT last game of the summer will be on September 20th...

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    i hope so after we celebrate 09 nba champions i hope to celebrate french victories with NT...go france go!

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    What is funny/strange is that the coach of L'ASVEL will likely be the coach of French NT. Parker will play for a coach who is his employee.
    I guess Parker's chances of getting benched by his NT this year will be less

    On a side note, Parker has also said that he wanted to join French NT as soon as early July this summer. If things went well, French NT last game of the summer will be on September 20th...
    Hopefully he has the shortest vacation possible this summer.

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    An article (in French) about it:
    http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&i...cursor_start=0

    The big deal is Parker will buy parts of l'ASVEL. Parker did it years ago with a team in Paris (and it ends up as a failure) but it was more a sentimental thing. This time it's more business related. They are trying to build a big BB team in France.

    In 2009-2010, the Euroleague format will change. For the first time, 16 teams will be automatically qualified for it and won't have to compete to keep an Euroleague roster spot (like in the NBA where teams are sure to be in the NBA for years).
    L'ASVEL (a team near Lyon) will try to get one of these 16 spots and they should be able to get one.
    How can they get top 16 contract? They do not meet qualification set for this.

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    Do they play in a barn?

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    How can they get top 16 contract? They do not meet qualification set for this.
    They should get a wild card.

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    They should get a wild card.
    I don't understand this.

    New system is 16 clubs get A license which mean they have lifetime contract for now. Then is 8 clubs get B or C license. B and C is for champions from certain leagues and for teams finish highest in leagues with extra spots like Spain, Greece, Italy and it would be 1 year or 3 years base on record they have in Euroleague.

    So only way ASVEL can make this is to win Pro A of France. Otherwise ULEB would be change rules for them. Because way rules is they have no chance of get A license and for B license they do not meet arena requirement or record in previous years requirement. And for A or B teams must have 10,000 arena. I believe they have pretty decent arena but not big enough.

    And as what I understand France and also Italy might lose one spot each in Euroleague next year and one place would go to each Russia and Greece.

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    I don't understand this.

    New system is 16 clubs get A license which mean they have lifetime contract for now. Then is 8 clubs get B or C license. B and C is for champions from certain leagues and for teams finish highest in leagues with extra spots like Spain, Greece, Italy and it would be 1 year or 3 years base on record they have in Euroleague.

    So only way ASVEL can make this is to win Pro A of France. Otherwise ULEB would be change rules for them. Because way rules is they have no chance of get A license and for B license they do not meet arena requirement or record in previous years requirement. And for A or B teams must have 10,000 arena. I believe they have pretty decent arena but not big enough.

    And as what I understand France and also Italy might lose one spot each in Euroleague next year and one place would go to each Russia and Greece.
    First, B and C license must only have a 5,000+ arena.

    16 teams will get a license A. 14 will get it through criteria and up to 2 will get it with a wild card. ASVEL is trying to get one of these 2 wild cards. TP is really confident about their ability to get it. They are currently playing in a quite small arena but they should have a new one for 2011 with a 15,000 or 16,000 capacity. IMO, ASVEL and Alba Berlin will get a wild card for the license A.

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    First, B and C license must only have a 5,000+ arena.

    16 teams will get a license A. 14 will get it through criteria and up to 2 will get it with a wild card. ASVEL is trying to get one of these 2 wild cards. TP is really confident about their ability to get it. They are currently playing in a quite small arena but they should have a new one for 2011 with a 15,000 or 16,000 capacity. IMO, ASVEL and Alba Berlin will get a wild card for the license A.
    If they get new arena they have chance maybe. But no B teams also need 10,000 arena. Remember new rule is ALL 24 teams must have 10,000 arena within 2012 time. There is only 2 years allow time for teams to get new arena. For next year A clubs need 10,000 but by 2012 even C clubs would need this.

    This I know is true because in Greece Panellinios is converting 10,000 arena and they already play now in 15,000 one. Maroussi now also play in 20,000 arena. These clubs is paying like 400K euros in cost just to rent these arenas.

    Aris was supposed to have A license and did not get it because they only have 5,000+ arena and new arena of theirs would not be ready by next year. I cannot see then how club like Aris cannot get even a wild card but ASVEL can. Because ASVEL will not have such arena next year either.

    Aris and Dynamo were both turn down for A license I think because of this. And Aris even this year not play in Euroleague has budget of something like 18 million. Then there is some Spanish clubs like Unicaja and Joventut and even they cannot get A license. It seems hard to imagine ASVEL can do this. If it happen they must be bribe ULEB. Because in Greece it was say by Aris that it would be 5 million euros to secure this wild card spot and names of clubs much bigger than ASVEL were said to want it. Like Khimki, Dynamo Moscow, Aris, Lietuvos Rytas, Unicaja Malaga, DKV Joventut, AJ Milano, ALBA Berlin and some other clubs like this. It does not make sense how ASVEL can get this contract then to me.

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    Think about how many international players the Spurs have had that have learned under this system. And the Spurs tend to sign guys who are smarter than the average bear. They could have a long-lasting impact on international ball by carrying that knowledge back home.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see ex-Spur players start being in demand as coaches in a few years.

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    French teams will never have success in euroleague with their current budgets

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    Tony got to know ASVEL's FO in 2006 during spurs preseason in Lyon (ASVEL's city).
    ASVEL's president travelled numerous times the last months to fix the deal.
    TP should become president himself at mid-term.

    I think it could have could have a direct impact for the spurs.
    As Bruno mentioned, ASVEL should have a wild card (to have the biggest possible market, Euroleague has to include a french and a german club).

    So, with TP involved in the club, spurs could send picks there and have a special eye on french or euro prospects.

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    French teams will never have success in euroleague with their current budgets
    Ditto. However, I think ASVEL will eventually land one of the wild cards. Canal+ is on their side and Bertomeu isn't crazy. I think only a strong candidature from a UK club (not happening) would avoid that.

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    Ditto. However, I think ASVEL will eventually land one of the wild cards. Canal+ is on their side and Bertomeu isn't crazy. I think only a strong candidature from a UK club (not happening) would avoid that.
    http://www.ballineurope.com/countrie...french-league/

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    I wonder if the ASVEL really want to be a top team in 4 or 5 years.
    To do it, they need at least a 15-20M$ budget (similar to Maccabi Tel Aviv, Montepaschi Siena... ). This is a huge step for a team living with 6-7 M$.

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    I still cannot see how ASVEL will get 1 of 2 wild card permanent franchises.

    There is only 16 available. 14 is regular and 2 is wild card.

    I ask some Euroleague reporter and they are so far like this (but is not final yet)

    1. CSKA Moscow
    2. TAU Vitoria
    3. Maccabi Tel Aviv
    4. Panathinaikos Athens
    5. Olympiacos Piraeus
    6. Real Madrid
    7. FC Barcelona
    8. Montepaschi Siena
    9. Fenerbache Ulker
    10. Efes Pilsen
    11. Lottomatica Roma
    12. Partizan Belgrade
    13. Unicaja Malaga
    14. Cibona Zagreb


    Wild card candidates is need 4 Euroleague appearances and are

    ASVEL, Olimpija Ljubljana, AEK Athens, Prokom, For udo Bologna, Virtus Bologna, Zalgiris Kaunas, Benetton Treviso

    Then there is candidates can get chance base on size of club, arena or new arena plans, how rich is club, how much budget they can have, and can pay 5 million euros fee and they are

    Aris Thessaloniki, Dynamo Moscow, Panionios Nea Smyrni, Khimki Moscow Region, DKV Joventut, ALBA Berlin

    So 2 spots is between ASVEL, Olimpija Ljubljana, AEK Athens, Prokom, For udo Bologna, Virtus Bologna, Zalgiris Kaunas, Benetton Treviso, Aris Thessaloniki, Dynamo Moscow, Panionios Nea Smyrni, Khimki Moscow Region, DKV Joventut, ALBA Berlin

    This 2 spots will be pick on arena, size of club, how much budget will clubs spend, how much attendance they can get, current state of clubs and budgets and such things.

    Panionios Nea Smyrni, DKV Joventut, and ALBA Berlin already should be able to get spot ahead of ASVEL base on this criteria. Only way ASVEL would get it is if they get it just so France can have 1 place.

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