Bulls 98'. Stern and Bavetta handed them that series on a silver platter.
The other day I was thinking how bizarre it is that ever since the close of the Lakers dynasty there hasn't been a repeat champion. 6 years without a repeat champion after the Lakers 3-peated, the Bulls 3-peated twice, the Pistons 2-peated, and the Rockets 2-peated. I surmised this may be due to growing parity in the NBA, but then I realized it was simply a fluke.
Let us reexamine the past 6 years and determine who the true champions were and who the fluke champions were
2003- Fluke champion: San Antonio Spurs (60-22)
True champion: Dallas Mavericks (60-22)
Our beloved Finley missed around 15 games in the latter part of the regular season, hence it was a fluke that the Spurs had home court advantage. The playoff series was also a fluke because our beloved Dirk missed the final 3 games and Kerr for some reason got hot and hit a bunch of fluky bull jumpers in game 6. The way the season was supposed to play out was the Mavs defeat the Spurs in 7, and then proceed to the Finals to beat a mediocre 49 win Net team in a battle between the #1 O and #1 D, certainly more appealing than the snoozefest low scoring Spurs/Nets series.
2004- Fluke champion: Detroit Pistons (54-28)
True champion: San Antonio Spurs (57-25)
The bottom line is Fisher's bull .4 shot in game 5 was a fluke, no skill at all. Some say the better team ALWAYS wins a 7 game series but like that confirms that indeed a team can flukishly win a series sometimes. What was supposed to happen is the Spurs were to beat the Lakers in 7, defeat a gassed/injured T-Wolves team in 6, and go on to the NBA Finals to beat the Pacers in 6 games.
2005- True champion: San Antonio Spurs (59-23)
This is a year where the true champion was indeed not a fluke. Our beloved Mavs were still transitioning from the Walker/Jamison failure of an experiment and coaching change, and this left the path open for the Spurs. Everything that should've happened in the playoffs this year did indeed happen
2006- Fluke champion: Miami Heat (52-30)
True champion: Dallas Mavericks (60-22)
The Mavs were the better team, but the refs decided that an unconventional PF is less marketable than ablack shooting guard with Jordanesque skill. A bunch of fluky bull shots and fluky bull whistles denied the Mavs thatyear. What was supposed to happen was the Mavs were to win in 6. Also, Wade putting up the best statistical finals of all time is fluky bull .
2007- Fluke champion: San Antonio Spurs (58-24)
True champion: Dallas Mavericks (67-15)
The Warriors getting an 8 seed was a fluky bull and then their bull H-O-R-S-E shots were fluky bull as well. What was supposed to happen was the CLippers were supposed to get the 8 seed and the Mavs should've won in 4. Then the Mavs beat the Jazz in 6, Spurs in 6, and Cavs in 6. Lebron would've been for our beloved Mavs, but our offensive firepower would've overcame the relatively unimpressive Cavs roster. The Spurs as we know could not beat our beloved Mavs, evident in 2006. Jazz physical style of play was always a problem, but we would've prevailed in 6.
2008- True champion: Boston Celtics (66-16)
The Mavs run by this point had come to an end with 3 championships in 5 years, and the Celtics with their bull trades were ready to win. They dominated the regular season from the very beginning and had the highest margin of victory since Jordan's Bulls. What was supposed to happen, Celtics > Lakers in 6 games, did indeed happen.
Last edited by Ghazi; 02-05-2009 at 01:37 PM.
Bulls 98'. Stern and Bavetta handed them that series on a silver platter.
We would have lost to Detroit in 2004, anyway
2007 - Fluke Champion : Spurs.
True Champion : Mavs.
No other team was beating the Mavs that year besides the Warriors who had them figured out to a t. Case in point when the Spurs players thanked the Warriors for beating them.
^ Yeap, I accidentally hit submit before posting that. It was also a fluke that the Clippers or Lakers weren't the 8 seed. The Warriors hit a bunch of fluky bull regular season shots to get the 8 seed in the first place, and continued their trend of fluky bull H-O-R-S-E shots against our beloved Mavs.
Gee, the Mavs should have won three of the last five championships? Careful, you're starting to sound as delusional as Sun fan.
yeah, it was a fluke that the Warriors wup that weak mav ass![]()
And the past 6 finals should be:
Mavs 4 Nets 2
Spurs 4 Pacers 2
Spurs 4 Heat 2
Mavs 4 Heat 2
Mavs 4 Cavs 2
Celtics 4 Lakers 2
What should've happened with the Cheat was that they're one of those good teams that makes the Finals twice, but isn't good enough and thus loses twice, as was the case with the Jazz in the decade prior.
If those Heat were true champions in 2006, they would'nt have followed it up with 46 wins the next year and a first round sweep, and 15 wins the year latter.
Look at the Spurs, they've defended all of their les honorably. Same with those Lakers and Bulls, and the Celtics are doing it this year as well.
That the Heat were unable to even win a PLAYOFF game the year after confirms that indeed their le was fluky bull .
Fixed.
Don't act like you guys don't . These forums are filled with the idea that the .4 and Dirk and 1 is the reason the Spurs haven't 5 peated.
First of all, Duncan's shot before Fisher's shot was pretty flukey. Both shots were flukey.
Also, a healthy Hornets team eliminated the Clippers at LA in the last game of the season. The Hornets would have been a playoff team that season if it weren't for the numerous amounts of injuries they had. West, Paul, Chandler, and Peja each missed over 15 games with Peja missing 69. So, the Mavs would have had to face us in the 1st round.
Mavs got away with murder games 3 and 4 in 2006 against the spurs
Jesus. Would've, could've, should've/insane denial forum.
Also Ghazi, you had the Pacers being better than the Pistons in 2004, but it wasn't the case. Your theory then would have the 2005 Heat in the finals and the 2006 Pistons in the Finals.
Fair enough, so the way that season was supposed to play out is Mavs > Hornets in4 or 5, Mavs 4 Jazz 2, Mavs 4 Spurs 2, Mavs 4 Cavs 2.
The moral of the story here is that it's unfair to mock our beloved Mavs and Dirk due to their lack of rings, the 3 years they should've won it all they didn't fail because they weren't good enough, they failed because of fluky bull whistles, fluky bull shots, fluky bull suspensions, and fluky bull injuries.
Lakers in 04-05. That Laker team was possibly one of the best to ever step on the court. Tierre Brown and Chucky Atkins were trully great to watch.
Mavs got every in call in 2006 against the spurs in games 3 and 4
In 2003, I don't think you guys would have beat the Kings if Webber didn't get hurt. They blew you guys out in Game 1 at Dallas and still took you guys to 7 games. Honestly, with a healthy C-Webb, we would have seen an epic series between the Spurs and Kings.
I think you guys did get hosed in the Heat series. You guys were the better team but D-Wade got all the calls. It was ridiculous. The 2007 team is debatable. Playing the spurs in the WCF would have been a challenge.
Webber getting hurt isn't a fluke, it's what is to be expected.
Says dirk4mvp
Same with Dirk getting hurt.
Says a guy who watched the Mavs beat the Spurs.
Why did the Spurs players have to thank the Warriors for beating the Mavs in 07?
These thoughts of mine are completely objective for what it's worth, no Mavs homerism whatsoever, hence me giving the Spurs repeat championships in 2004 and 2005 and acknolwedging that the Mavs time had passed by last year.
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I agree with Dirk on two things:
Way too much ing about "woulda, coulda, shoulda" regarding .4..it happened, its over, it sucked but move on.
The Mavs were better than SA in 06.
However, this fluke champ-true champ thing is for pussies. The true champ is the one who takes care of business on the floor. Some (not all as Dirk and Ghazi etc. would have you believe) Spurs fans like to try and justify Spur losses as everybody else's fault but its all on the team. Other fans of other teams do the same thing but they get called out for it. Those Spurs fans who do the same don't get a pass.
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