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Those teams shouldn't have won. I agree. They just made some shots and grabbed some rebounds. Obviously if another team made as many shots and grabbed as many rebounds they would have won. Complete fluke.
Spurs were the best team in 2007 that was obvious. They steamrolled through everyone.
That's like me saying Pistons thanked Derek Fisher in 2004 for hitting the .4 shot becaues Spurs would have beat the Pistons.
Those teams shouldn't have won. I agree. They just made some shots and grabbed some rebounds. Obviously if another team made as many shots and grabbed as many rebounds they would have won. Complete fluke.
It's easy to say that now that the chips have fallen where they have. "We took care of business, you didn't". No, Kerr hit some bull shots in '03, D-Whistle got some bull calls in '06, and the Warriors hit some bul halfcourt shots in '07
J-Ho is right, sometimes you just cant control what the ball do.
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J-Ho is right but that is part of the game. Fluke implies otherwise. Fluke implies those les were not earned fairly when in fact, they were.
To the person who said this is denial, no it's not. We're not implying the teams that won the years the Mavs were supposed to are undeserving or unworthy, I'm just implying that the Cheat won because of fluky bull shots and whistles, the Spurs won because of Kerr hitting some bull shots and our beloved Dirk falling + our beloved Fin's late season injury causing us to slip and yield HCA, and the W's won because a bunch of scrubs for some reason learned how to hit fluky bull shots
Warriors destroyed the Mavs. They didn't win because of half court shots. And for you to say Kerr hit bull shots in 06. For one Kerr is probably a top 5 three point shooter of all time. Leaving him wide open isn't lucky on Kerr's behalf. Secondly I believe Spurs defense held the Mavs to 9 points in the 4th quarter of game 6. Mavs were not the better team in 03' and thats for sure.It's easy to say that now that the chips have fallen where they have. "We took care of business, you didn't". No, Kerr hit some bull shots in '03, D-Whistle got some bull calls in '06, and the Warriors hit some bul halfcourt shots in '07
J-Ho is right, sometimes you just cant control what the ball do.
MAVS
Actually he said Kerr hit bull shots in 03. And he's still wrong. Steve Kerr hit some dead on 3's because the Mavs kept leaving him open. He proved way before that series that if you do that, he will kill you.
Steve Kerr hitting those shots after being in warmups all series long is like Hamed Haddadi coming off the bench and posterizing Dwight Howard. is simply ing fluky.
Not really, Steve Kerr did that his whole career.
THe Warriors did destroy the Mavs, but that's because if you hit 5-6 fluke bull 3-PT shots that's 15-18 points, not to mention those shots are not supposed to go in and lead to long rebounds and outlet passes for transition points. Thus, The Warriors probably had about 22-24 points per game due to bull H-O-R-S-E shots.
Steve Kerr is one of the greatest shooters and furthermore clutch shooters in the history of the NBA. He never made a bull shot his whole career.
Very few people dispute that.D-Whistle got some bull calls in '06
Then your team should have grown a pair and knocked them on their asses. You got your slaughtered by one of the softest playoff teams in league history and if it should've been different, it should've been your very good team causing the difference. And they didn't do that. It's pretty simple really:, and the Warriors hit some bul halfcourt shots in '07
If a team needs to avoid a certain team in order to win, that team doesn't deserve the le, particularly if the team they need to avoid didn't even win 50 games.
The Suns needed to avoid SA, the Mavs needed to avoid golden state. I know you're going to say Dallas was the kryptonite to them, but SA didn't have a team they matched up against as poorly as the two match ups mentioned above.
The NBA champion is the team that can play any style against any team and expose weaknesses against every team they play. The Mavs simply couldn't expose the lack of size and interior D on Golden State which is why they lost.
If the Suns deserved a championship, they would have been able to expose SA's lack of athleticism and lack of playmakers outside the big 3. They didn't, so they lost.
Kerr and the W's bull shots were just the smaller flukes. The bigger flukes in '03 were Dirk's injury and Fin's late in the regular season, and the bigger fluke in the '07 season was the W's getting the 8 seed w/ a regular season of BS shots instead of the Clippers, Hornets, or Lakers.
As much as people call the W's series a choke for our beloved Mavs, we WERE 1-6 in our last 7 against them, although 2 of those losses were off of fluky bull buzzer beating shots.
The reason the Mavs didn't win any championships was because they got beat in the playoffs. The reason the Spurs didn't win in 04 and 06 is because they got beat in the playoffs. It doesn't matter who has the better talent or what they did in the regular season, if they lose in the playoffs, weather is was "fluky" or not, then they can't be "true" champions. Period. End of story. See you next season.
Is this a SpursDynasty tribute thread?I haven't seen the words fluke and bull shots so much since he was last here.
i hate it when professional b-ball players hit bull shots.
all those three's that kerr hit were obviously bull shots because that guy can't shoot worth a crap.
all in all great post very funny....
This thread is hilarious.
I say a team that, in three separate seasons, was the best team and should have won NBA les but still failed to win those les would be the biggest fluke team of the bunch.
Fluke non-championship havers.
The Spurs were already making their comeback anyway even before Kerr hit those 3's
Ghazi, I like all Mavs fans man, but you are seriously in SpursDynasty level here.
03- as many people have pointed out, if you include Dirk's injury, why not Webber's. And with Dirk we weren't that much better than the Spurs were we. During those years we had no one to defend Duncan, we were doing it with Najera most of the time.
04- Pistons were by FAAAAAAAR the best team that year. I think because they failed to repeat people forget how good they were. Lakers started that season strong, but they unravaled as they year went on. In fact, the best record in the league belonged to a dominant defensive Indiana team. And the Pistons beat them up in the ECF. One of the many elements that is usually forgotten, is how well Rip was playing that year. He never got back to that level, but in the dogfight that was that ECF series he was the only player to score 20 every game, and he did it against DPOY Artest. They completely outclassed the Lakers in the finals as well. Maybe because defensive rules were relaxed after that year, but the Pistons for some reason never played as well.
05 - Spurs, nothing else to say.
06- The one legitimate issue. The Heat were handed those rings. People who say Dallas should have fought back, they shouldn't have let it come down to those FTs, Dirk choked etc... should see those games again. The Mavs gave it their absolute all, they never panicked (as they did in the later years). They had gone through everything possible, won game 7 in San Antonio (with Duncan getting every possible call, for those Spurs fans that like to about games 3 and 4). The had a very high confidence, and they played like it until the last second of game 6. But as I have said many times, when Dirk was making plays at one end, Wade was hitting FTs on the other.
07- Mavs choked, plain and simple. For whatever reason, bad coaching, bad leadership, whatever. Plus the Mavs were also spent and I also think their team wasn't as good as 06. Terry had had a down year, so had Diop, we were missing Van Horn and Daniels off the bench, both Damp and Dirk were not 100%. Going down the stretch the Mavs to me seemed not the same team as 06.
08 - Celtics for sure.
it's hard to listen to an argument filled with "shoulds, coulds, and woulds."
That might have been the best Spurs team of the bunch - the Mavs were playing some ridiculously good basketball that season. Best series i ever saw.
But yes, absolutely hilarious Spursdynasty type thread.
All the Spews rings are fluke. Again, strike season is not real. Won't debate that anymore, I am right. The rest of the rings had big injuries to stars players plus the year the 2 Suns players were suspended. Freaken lucky Spews. Bynum is out,Chris Paul is injuried. Is history going towards the Spews again this year?
Dumb thread.
If not for the fact that Ghazi quoted Josh Howard as support for his argument
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