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    I like these quotes from the paper I cited:

    “We may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse.”
    "We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and envireronmental policy.”
    “A global warming treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect.”

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    Is this the policy recommendation you are referring to?
    Yeah, that's it.

    Looks like he's posing a hypothetical question. Are any of his assertions about nuclear energy untrue?
    I wouldn't know.

    But I notice you didn't answer my question. Do you have a answer, or do you consider the question itself misguided?

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    Yeah, that's it.

    I wouldn't know.

    But I notice you didn't answer my question. Do you have a answer, or do you consider the question itself misguided?

    I didn't answer your question because it was based on a false premise.

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    Gotcha. That's an answer. You refuse to answer mine.

    Thanks, I guess.

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    the right wing is composed of some of the most ignorant s in the nation, while they think whatever they say has substance the rest of us just laugh on the inside as they run around circles. No wonder your party is in shambles and the laughing stock of the nation.

    This is coming from from an independent, both parties suck but i prefer the lesser of 2 evils.

    Watching Wild Cobra shows how flawed their logic really is.

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    .Watching Wild Cobra shows how flawed their logic really is.
    I would say there's plenty of fail to go around, and no need to pick on such an easy target. There's no valor in it.






    I should remember that sometimes.

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    the right wing is composed of some of the most ignorant s in the nation, while they think whatever they say has substance the rest of us just laugh on the inside as they run around circles. No wonder your party is in shambles and the laughing stock of the nation.

    This is coming from from an independent, both parties suck but i prefer the lesser of 2 evils.

    Watching Wild Cobra shows how flawed their logic really is.

    WTF are you talking about? This issue has nothing to do with being conservative or liberal.

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    This topic is actually one of WC's stronger ones. He misuses his reason just like he does everywhere else, but his discourse on GW is at least reason-based, and is even mildly persuasive in spots.

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    Some of the stuff he suggests about solar activity and soot seem plausible to me.

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    WTF are you talking about? This issue has nothing to do with being conservative or liberal.
    What the are you talkign about? You and Wild Cobra are the only ones that have posted Global warming articles!

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    What the are you talkign about? You and Wild Cobra are the only ones that have posted Global warming articles!
    The search function is your friend.

    This is not exactly right, and I don't know how much it's safe to assume about DarrinS's political orientation. Even if you are right about it, his views on science *may not* be ideologically derived.

    FWIW sook, where DarrinS is concerned it seems there's an honest disagreement about the science.

    Where WC is concerned, the disagreement strikes me as basically dishonest, but even WC occasionally turns up a topical nugget. Like the soot thing.

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    Watching Wild Cobra shows how flawed their logic really is.
    You're a ing idiot.

    I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!

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    Some of the stuff he suggests about solar activity and soot seem plausible to me.
    Do a little fact finding and you will discover they are, without doubt, the primary reasons we have been warming.

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    Where WC is concerned, the disagreement strikes me as basically dishonest, but even WC occasionally turns up a topical nugget. Like the soot thing.
    Can you explain why any point I bring up on the issue is dishonest?

    That. I'd like to see!

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    Can you explain why any point I bring up on the issue is dishonest?

    That. I'd like to see!

    I think your best point was how the greenhouse effect of C02 is logarithmic. That pretty much ends the debate, IMO. You should post that graph again.

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    WC, why don't you respond to what I posted on page 1?

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    WC, why don't you respond to what I posted on page 1?
    Because I haven't read all the material involved yet for one. I don't know if your article is a correct assessment or not. Mainly because it came from you, and I didn't know how much of the words were yours until I went to the link.

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    I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!
    Admit it, WC: you do play one on ST.

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    I think your best point was how the greenhouse effect of C02 is logarithmic. That pretty much ends the debate, IMO. You should post that graph again.
    I don't think these liberals understand math.

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    Can you explain why any point I bring up on the issue is dishonest?
    It the way you argue that's dishonest.

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    It the way you argue that's dishonest.
    Example please.

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    Because I haven't read all the material involved yet for one.
    Yet you can say with certainty that what this man says is correct?
    I don't know if your article is a correct assessment or not.
    It seems to be
    Mainly because it came from you
    That's funny Mr. Robotfixer
    and I didn't know how much of the words were yours until I went to the link.
    None of them. So respond.

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    Do a little fact finding and you will discover they are, without doubt, the primary reasons we have been warming.
    You could have just said there's support for the hypotheses. Instead, you claim there's no doubt. Your hypotheses are not even theories yet, and you're claiming they're already proven.

    That's an example of dishonesty.

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    Yet you can say with certainty that what this man says is correct?
    Stop being dishonest. Where did I say that?

    I rarely agree with everything someone says.

    Yes, it sounds good. For all I know, the rebuttal is taking things out of context. I'm not convinced just because something sounds good. I'm sorry you are.

    That's funny Mr. Robotfixer


    None of them. So respond.
    If I have time to absorb what's being said on the heat equations.

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    Stop being dishonest. Where did I say that?

    I rarely agree with everything someone says.
    Who's being dishonest now? I never said you agreed with everything he said. I said you though he was correct without having read all of the information. Am I wrong?


    Yes, it sounds good. For all I know, the rebuttal is taking things out of context. I'm not convinced just because something sounds good. I'm sorry you are.
    that's hilarious coming from you


    If I have time to absorb what's being said on the heat equations.
    Only if it doesn't conflict with your robot repairs.

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