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You should put Raja Bell's head on the ref.
I'm going to post in this topic every day until it happens. Then I can say I called it.
You should put Raja Bell's head on the ref.
Another vote here. You might need to get rid of Kerr since he'll probably protect porter.
Get a new owner?
That probably wouldn't hurt either.
trade Amare .
For who? Shaq isn't going to last forever.
Rebuild. Idk who, but the idea that this team is a coaching change/trade away from contention is something you need to get out of your head.
Everyone should be traded for whatever, that includes Nash. The Heat held the 2008 tankapalooza, the Suns should hold the 2009 tankapalooza.
So take a big action without having any idea? Are you sure you're not Steve Kerr?
Get a new everything, but keep Kerr.
The Shaq thing would work if Amare and the rest of the situation wasn't so lame.
Kerr is doing a horrible job this year and I'm running out of patience with him (and I've been more than patient with him), but he is getting unfairly judged when people say he took a contender and turned them into this.......he took a team that lost in the 2nd round w/ an owner who wanted to shed payroll and a conference that was improving quickly.
Kerr's first season was 2007-2008. He had no control over LA getting Fisher back & getting Gasol. No control over New Orleans emerging as a top 5 team in the West. No control over Utah slowly getting better every year.
He had little to no ability to deal with Sarver's demand to dump James Jones & KT for nothing and in addition not sign any free agents to a multi-year deal.
He took over after the 2006-2007 season. The Suns didn't win the conference, didn't even make the conference finals. The owner made it impossible for the Suns to improve and was content with them staying the same. Meanwhile, the entire conference was improving. Not Kerr's fault.
Of course a Spurs fan wants the Suns to keep Kerr.
When Kerr took over the Suns were a 61-21 team and had just come off the defacto finals (the hip-check series).
He complained about defense and rebounding and then proceeded to trade Kurt Thomas, Diaw, Marion and Bell (which makes up the only players we had who could defend or rebound) for Shaq and J-Rich.
The Suns wont fire Porter. They have the Bush administration philosophy:
"We are never wrong."
The Kurt Thomas trade wasn't Kerr's fault. It was Sarver's fault for wanting to shed payroll and it was D'antoni's fault for giving Sarver the idea KT was a useless player.Of course a Spurs fan wants the Suns to keep Kerr.
When Kerr took over the Suns were a 61-21 team and had just come off the defacto finals (the hip-check series).
He complained about defense and rebounding and then proceeded to trade Kurt Thomas, Diaw, Marion and Bell (which makes up the only players we had who could defend or rebound) for Shaq and J-Rich.
The Suns wont fire Porter. They have the Bush administration philosophy:
"We are never wrong."
Marion wanted out, he had become a locker room liability and was playing with no heart. They said on Gambo and Ash yesterday one of the biggest factors in the Marion trade was that Nash was tired of playing with him and having to worry about getting him his touches, and quite frankly I believe Nash. Shaq has been this team's best player this year, that trade was good for the Suns considering the cir stances.
Diaw and Bell were doing nothing when they were traded. Bell was making excuses about why he wasn't playing motivated defense and Boris's alter-ego Doris was back and worse than ever.
There are two extremely stupid things Kerr has done as GM where he had complete control over the situation and it was clearly his fault:
1) Draft Robin Lopez
2) waiting this long to address extreme locker room tension and division when it was clear in November we would reach this point if it wasn't addressed.
From Coro's Blog today:
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/45619
* The most startling things about Golden State's 3-point barrage that buried Phoenix on Wednesday were Terry Porter's postgame comment about Azubuike ("We didn't expect that. He hadn't that many 3s this year," he said of the NBA's third-ranked 3-point shooter) and the lack of adjustments once they started following. It seemed as though the Suns continued to go under screens most of the night and the only real change was a zone against a perimeter shooting team.
Good lord is that true? Did porter miss out on the GS thrashing of Dallas or every GS game in the last 15 years?
I think Kerr "gets it" though. As good as the Suns record was with D'Antoni, they just weren't going to reach the finals.
Once D'Antoni bounced, it was 100% evident most of the players were products of his system. Kerr wants to create a real team but is still having to deal with wrong parts (Nash, Amare).
would the suns take odom and vlad for amare?
Kerr should hire Eddie Jordan
I'm honestly shocked at how bad Terry Porter has been. He was a fantastic coach in Milwaukee, and I thought he was a great fit in Phoenix.
NEWSFLASH LAKER NATION: if you feel the need to include Vlad in a trade, just leave him out, the other team is more likely to the that exact trade only w/o garbagonovich than with garbagonovich.
And no, I wouldn't do Odom for Amare straight up at this point because it does nothing to help the Suns. I'd rather watch Amare rot in the situation he caused than ride Kobe & Gasol's coat tail's if the Suns aren't getting any young pieces either way.
The only way he's getting traded to a Western conference team is if Memphis is giving Gay, if Portland is giving LaMarcus, or if OKC is giving Jeff Green and Phoenix's 2010 pick back to Phoenix, three things I highly doubt any of those teams will do.
If it winds up being Amare 4 a veteran who won't stay in Phoenix beyond this year & a mediocre 1st round pick, it will be to an Eastern conference team.
I think Porter has his share of blame, but I honestly think that a great part of the 'Suns debacle' has to do with him having to coach responsibility and accountability to basically a bunch of spoiled kids... I mean, if they really want to change to a respectable defensive team, Nash is the very first that has to go. And it makes no sense to trade Bell if that's your target. So in part the coach is to blame, but I also think management and the players are really high up there in making the wrong moves.
Problem is the fans are making that as hard as possible for Kerr. The fans fell in love with small ball because it was "fun" and refuse to accept that it wouldn't win a le.
It's also because a lot of these bandwagon idiots didn't know what basketball was prior to 2004, so they say stupid stuff like, "Shaq is making this team horrible," or, "There's no point in trying to improve on defense if you know you suck at it."
true statement. Try coaching a group of es more concerned with their gorilla game, being THE MAN, and having more "fun" than winning a le and improving on defense. Keep in mind this group also had 4 years with little accountability and extremely easy practices so they reacted negatively when they were forced to play a traditional practice. D'antoni has his strengths as a coach and is an offensive genius, but he had several major weaknesses which led to a culture of complacency and irresponsibility that the team will need several years to get rid of.
Hopefully he wont...
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