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    why do lakers fans think this is a significant salary dump? lakers in 2010 is set with $67 million worth of salaries with only FIVE players. this doesn't include farmar, morrison, ariza, or odom. ariza will get an extention of probably $5-6 million a year so that will already put the lakers near the luxury tax threshold with only SIX players. and this is in 2010, not 2009. any contract with odom would be around $9-10 million at the least which would translate into $18-20 in salary and luxury tax and the lakers will only have seven players.

    this won't allow the lakers to keep odom, just give them some breathing room to sign players near the minimum.

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    why do lakers fans think this is a significant salary dump? lakers in 2010 is set with $67 million worth of salaries with only FIVE players. this doesn't include farmar, morrison, ariza, or odom. ariza will get an extention of probably $5-6 million a year so that will already put the lakers near the luxury tax threshold with only SIX players. and this is in 2010, not 2009. any contract with odom would be around $9-10 million at the least which would translate into $18-20 in salary and luxury tax and the lakers will only have seven players.

    this won't allow the lakers to keep odom, just give them some breathing room to sign players near the minimum.
    with the lakers in the luxury tax and plans to keep odom and ariza in the offseason, saving 7 million(with luxury tax its basically 14 million) is a huge deal

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    MILF. i dont care about her scar on the face.

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    with the lakers in the luxury tax and plans to keep odom and ariza in the offseason, saving 7 million(with luxury tax its basically 14 million) is a huge deal
    true, but this won't allow the lakers to keep odom.

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    That Little Fuc*er said he's willing to comply and take less.

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    why do lakers fans think this is a significant salary dump? lakers in 2010 is set with $67 million worth of salaries with only FIVE players. this doesn't include farmar, morrison, ariza, or odom. ariza will get an extention of probably $5-6 million a year so that will already put the lakers near the luxury tax threshold with only SIX players. and this is in 2010, not 2009. any contract with odom would be around $9-10 million at the least which would translate into $18-20 in salary and luxury tax and the lakers will only have seven players.

    this won't allow the lakers to keep odom, just give them some breathing room to sign players near the minimum.
    Lakers Jerry Buss already said he'd pay the luxury tax to keep the team together. Magic number is $100 million from what I've heard.

    Lakers were already paying Radmanovic into 2011. With Fisher and Morrison off in 2010, that's $20 million less they'll be paying (including luxury tax). Buss gets a huge break then so he only has to pony up for 1 year luxury tax on Ariza/Odom.

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    I like this trade. Vlad had his ups and downs but he never truly fit in with the concept. He's a known en y and didn't improve with his time here.

    Morrison is a solid player when given time and a change of scenery will help him. He still has potential and can contribute.

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    Lakers Jerry Buss already said he'd pay the luxury tax to keep the team together. Magic number is $100 million from what I've heard.

    Lakers were already paying Radmanovic into 2011. With Fisher and Morrison off in 2010, that's $20 million less they'll be paying (including luxury tax). Buss gets a huge break then so he only has to pony up for 1 year luxury tax on Ariza/Odom.
    lakers are already set over the luxury tax next year at $74 million. so if odom resigns, buss will have to pay luxury tax for 2009 and 2010 because lakers will be already near the luxury tax ($67 million) with only 5 players in 2010. you forget the lakers will only have 5 players under contract in 2010. odom and ariza will put them over the luxury tax and they will still only have 7 players. then they have to add 2 point guards (if farmar leaves, otherwise he adds another $3 million or $6 million with luxury tax) and four other players for the bench. if lakers find 4 scrub players at the average of $1.5 million each, that's another $12 million of salary and luxury tax.

    so in 2010:
    kobe + bynum + vujacic + walton + gasol = $67.2 million
    ariza = maybe $5-6 million
    odom = optimistically 7-8 million
    so all seven players will equal 80.2 million

    add 6 other scrub players to make a roster of 13 at $2 million average = $12 million. altogether would go up to $92 million.

    add luxury tax and it's well over $100 million. for the lakers to keep odom they have to convince ariza he sucks (which he doesn't) AND convince odom to take near the MLE which i doubt he would because he's in the prime right now and probably would rather get paid now rather than later. damn now that i look at the salaries, walton and bynum's contracts kills the lakers.

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    http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/09020...lottedeal.html

    Details on the Charlotte Deal


    Mike Trudell
    Lakers Reporter | February 7th, 2009



    Let's see what we can make out of Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak's deal with the Charlotte Bobcats, in which L.A. receives third-year player and former No. 3 overall draft pick (2006) Adam Morrison and fellow 2006 first-round pick (No. 25) Shannon Brown.

    The bottom line from Kupchak's conference call with media members here in Cleveland is three-part:

    A) Radmanovic had fallen beneath Luke Walton and Trevor Ariza on the small forward depth chart, and did not appear likely to play much for the rest of the season. Particularly since Radmanovic was "highly compensated," in Kupchak's words, it didn't make sense to keep him when he wasn't getting minutes.

    B) The Lakers acquired two young players with upside that have a chance to help the Lakers down the line, if not this season. Morrison is a terrific shooter and Brown a strong, athletic wing player who might give L.A. a different defensive look off the bench than it previously possessed.

    C) The salary and number of years factor favors the Lakers. In Kupchak's words, "We picked up some flexibility down the road with a shortened (financial) commitment versus Vladi's commitment." Basically, Shannon Brown’s contract expires at the end of this season, and Morrison’s expires at the end of next season. Radmanovic’s contract, however, goes through 2011, so the Lakers pick up an extra year of flexibility.

    Mitch Kupchak Conference Call Transcript
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    "As the season wore on, it looked like Phil (Jackson) had settled into starting Luke (Walton) and bringing Trevor (Ariza) off the bench, and we are very pleased with both players. Vladi (Radmanovic) started the season (at small forward) and I thought he played well, but here it is early February and it looked like he wasn't going to play much. You can tell by just watching and talking to Vladi that he did want to play, and he didn't come here just to sit on the bench and collect a paycheck. So, part of the decision was to accommodate a player that wanted to play.

    From our point of view we feel we pick up two players that are still young developing players (is valuable). As you know, Adam (Morrison) was their No. 3 pick in the NBA Draft and had an ACL injury against us last year. That injury takes more than a year (to recover from), so we think he would benefit from a situation that has less pressure, and our staff here in terms of our people downstairs medically and just a stable environment where he could progress and get back to where he was in college. Shannon Brown is a developing player as well - you may recall that he played really well against us in L.A. last week. So we picked up two players that have upside. If there was a third reason, we picked up some flexibility down the road with a shortened commitment versus Vladi's (financial) commitment."

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    The Lakers were looking for a new defensive look off the bench that "Maybe Shannon Brown could come in and give us something we don't have." The former Michigan State standout is a solid 6-4, 211 pounds, and can body up on both shooting guards and small forwards.
    To Kupchak, it didn't make any sense to keep a player "who was highly compensated on the bench and not playing at all, especially if he was not happy." So shipping Radmanovic seemed to be a good option regardless; getting two young players with potential surely sweetened the deal.
    When asked if he felt the Lakers were taking a risk in making the deal in terms of chemistry, Kupchak replied that since Radmanovic wasn't playing, that shouldn't be an issue. Vladi was "well liked," but the feeling was if Vladi continued not to play, he would have been more and more unhappy: "Then maybe the chemistry side doesn't look as good."
    It was obvious to GMs around the league that the Lakers had an overabundance of small forwards. In short, Radmanovic, Walton and Ariza had to duke it out for playing time, and even though Vladi played well as a starter, Jackson opted for Walton due to his understanding of the offense and ability to move the ball, while Ariza's minutes couldn't be diminished in the interest of the team. As such, Vladi became expendable, and opposing front offices knew that. It just "Took a little time to see whom Phil was going to settle on," explained Kupchak.
    Neither player has previous experience with the triangle offense, but Kupchak doesn't see learning it as a problem. "We're not going to expect either player to come in and produce right away, although if they earn it, they could."
    The deal started to take shape in the middle of this past week, according to Kupchak. A second conversation followed on Thursday, and the deal was done Friday.
    Kupchak thinks Vladi, at worst, improves Charlotte's relatively thin bench, adding that he might in fact start with Gerald Wallace on the bench due to the injury suffered against the Lakers last Tuesday.
    When asked if the Lakers were done on the trade front before the February 19 deadline, Kupchak responded in turn: "I wouldn't say that I'm making a lot of calls. We have the best record in the league right now, we just had a great road trip and hopefully we can end it really strong tomorrow. The news on Andrew (Bynum) was not good, but it looks like he'll have a better chance to return this year than he did last year, so I'm not sure we want to address anything more than continuing to win as many games as possible and hope to get Andrew back.
    More pointedly: "I don't think there's a deal out there that can make this a better team than the one we have or the one we potentially have."
    Kupchak doesn't think there are any big men that are better than Chris Mihm or D.J. Mbenga that wouldn't command equal value on the trade market. "I don't know why we'd do that."
    Finally, a business note: Both Morrison and Brown have to pass physicals before playing for the Lakers, and neither will be with the team on Sunday in Cleveland. Instead, both players will fly to Los Angeles to take their physicals on Sunday and are expected to practice with the Lakers on Monday.

    Check back tomorrow for more on the two newest Lakers

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    Good trade a defender and spot up shooter ...love to trade Morrison to Seattle for watson or Wilcox

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    MILF. i dont care about her scar on the face.
    Im not a shallow man. I love her glasses

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    Like when Fisher/Farmar are being torched by Tony Parker, CP3, Aaron Brooks, DWill, Jameer Nelson, Steve Blake, Rajon, Beno .... ?



    Exactly. He doesn't exactly have to set the world on fire with his defense considering how bad fish and farmar play D sometimes. They make 3rd tier players look like all-stars routinely.

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    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/l...-kupchak-brown

    The team is thrilled to dump the unprofessional forward who hurt their payroll and their performance.
    That was Vladimir Radmanovic’s last act as a Laker before he was traded Saturday to the Charlotte Bobcats in primarily a payroll-paring move for the future. The Lakers acquired small forward Adam Morrison, a bust to this point as the third pick in the 2006 draft, and shooting guard Shannon Brown.

    In his final Lakers practice on Friday, Radmanovic didn’t wear basketball shoes. He wore Vans – the low-top, slip-on kind of sneakers favored by skateboarders and, yes, snowboarders.

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    Morrison is pure garbage from what I have seen considering I live near charlotte and have watched a lot of bobcat games. Morrison straight up sucks ass. Vlad is no all-star now but now that he's gone its one less thorn the spurs have to deal with when they play the lakers. I'm not ever worried about Morrison going off against the spurs like Vlad did because Morrison is a pussy. The only upside of this trade I see is Shannon Brown who has shown some signs of potential with his ability to guard big quck guards and he has a decent offensive game.

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