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    Significance........ you have to understand the concept first. You have a tendency to pick out one or two events out of a long timeline and use them to demonstrate significance.

    I don't have the inclination to give a typed lesson on the subject, so you're SOL unfortunately.
    You can write me back when Margin of Victory nets you millions of dollars year after year in Vegas... Holy , this stat is out there for everyone to see and nobody picked up on it... You go champ...

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    You really can't read can you?

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    You really can't read can you?
    My bad... Dallas choked enough times these last few years....

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    You can write me back when Margin of Victory nets you millions of dollars year after year in Vegas... Holy , this stat is out there for everyone to see and nobody picked up on it... You go champ...

    Reductio ad absurdum......

    It need not net me million of dollars to be a useful stat. Fact remains that there is no other single stat which predicts the Finals winner with as much accuracy as this one.

    Case closed.

    Just as a sidenote: Had I been betting on it over the past 12 years, I would indeed be a millionaire.

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    If the spurs had a good margin of victory but still had same record, some Spurs fans would say it is a relevant stat.

    But since their margin of victory is unspectacular, some of those same fans will say it is an irrelevant stat.

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    I backed ElNono in that continents debate ... but he got hammered in this one. OV and Agloco took him behind the woodshed.

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    Reductio ad absurdum......

    It need not net me million of dollars to be a useful stat. Fact remains that there is no other single stat which predicts the Finals winner with as much accuracy as this one.

    Case closed.
    Argumentum ad nauseam...

    It's the most useful of the useless stats... gotcha!

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    I backed ElNono in that continents debate ... but he got hammered in this one. OV and Agloco took him behind the woodshed.

    What debate was that?

    Just so happens I work in a field where stats is an integral part of what I do. It's not easy to properly apply the concepts. I find it tricky at times as well.

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    Argumentum ad nauseam...

    It's the most useful of the useless stats... gotcha!
    Agree to disagree.... I'm cool with that.

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    I backed ElNono in that continents debate ... but he got hammered in this one. OV and Agloco took him behind the woodshed.
    I'll take that... I still think the Spurs are going all the way, regardless of what Hollinger ranking says...

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    I'll say that it's a lot easier to debate with OV and Agloco than the unnamed one. Even if we don't agree, it stayed mostly on topic. Thanks for that, and sorry if I touched a nerve here or there.
    And YES! I could be wrong!

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    I'll take that... I still think the Spurs are going all the way, regardless of what Hollinger ranking says...
    Debunking Hollinger is always fun but this specific trend is undeniable. However, the Spurs are different in that they have so much success under their belt, they don't try as hard in the regular season as other teams. No team gives less regular season effort, which obviously affects the point differential. That tells me that if any team is going to escape the trend, it'd be the Spurs.

    What debate was that?
    Forgot specifics but whottt was, IIRC, saying England isn't considered part of the European continent. ElNono argued otherwise.

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    If the spurs had a good margin of victory but still had same record, some Spurs fans would say it is a relevant stat.

    But since their margin of victory is unspectacular, some of those same fans will say it is an irrelevant stat.
    If there's something you learn quick being a Spurs fan, is that stats generally don't really matter much. That's why we have things like SPAM, and the proverbial RRT...

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    Debunking Hollinger is always fun but this specific trend is undeniable. However, the Spurs are different in that they have so much success under their belt, they don't try as hard in the regular season as other teams. No team gives less regular season effort, which obviously affects the point differential. That tells me that if any team is going to escape the trend, it'd be the Spurs.
    I think this year has specific significance, not just because of the injuries at the beggining of the season (you could argue those smooth out over 82 games), but the fact that Pop is barely playing Bowen right now, and he's going to play a lot more come playoff time. Pop used to mostly rein in Manu minutes and sometimes TD and Finley, but this year he's trying to sit everybody as the standings permit, including TP. And if the Hornets and Mavs and Rockets keep losing I expect more rest for the big 4 like Denver last week.

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    The only stat that should bother Spur fans is opponent FG%

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    The only stat that should bother Spur fans is opponent FG%
    you apparently haven't been paying attention, the conclusion has been drawn that stats don't matter when it comes to the Spurs, we're special

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    I'll say that it's a lot easier to debate with OV and Agloco than the unnamed one. Even if we don't agree, it stayed mostly on topic. Thanks for that, and sorry if I touched a nerve here or there.
    And YES! I could be wrong!
    No nerves touched....ever. It was a good review for me too =)

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    The only stat that should bother Spur fans is opponent FG%
    Not just Spurs fans... have you been taking a look what you've been allowing lately?

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    The only stat that should bother Spur fans is opponent FG%
    I hate to say it, but House is right......

    This is THE stat that I've been screaming about since the second week of the season.....

    And it got worse today FYI.....

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    The Spurs score easy points when their defense is clicking. It's also how they are able to go on a big run during a game to blow it open, which is the hallmark of any Spurs run in the Tim Duncan era. It's also a decent indicator of whether or not the Spurs are sleepwalking through a season.

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