Rasheed Wallace on the Spurs?

[TheSpursFNRule]

We are making progress!

[galvatron3000]

It might not be enough to just give Detroit one of them. I'd love to keep either Ian or Splitter's rights, but you might have to include both for Detroit to do it. Would the Spurs be willing to trade two young prospects for Rasheed? And what if Rasheed bolts next season? We're left with nothing.

Splitter IMO is by far the most attractive option for the Pistons if he's willing to come over because that would be like a lottery pick for them. I don't know if the Spurs want to do that though after the Scola trade .

I don't see the Pistons moving Sheed for anything other than expiring contracts, he won't be with them next season and they know it. Unless they send him to a contender (other than the Spurs) they won't get much or any offers because the other teams will just wait til the off season and most of the contenders can wait too because they don't want to trade any of their youg assets. The Lakers could once again screw us all and trade Bynum or Odom for Sheed and it will be over for the rest of the league and Kobe aand them will be on track for another Jordan-like double 3 peat, which the league would love. Hopefully Laker haters (like the Pistons) will pull a Memphis Grizzle and send Sheed to the Spurs for Bonner after redoing his contract for less and we can laugh as a small market team pulls a fast one on the big market big wigs.

[manufor3]

make it happen

[xtremesteven33]

It has to happen.


Please basketball Gods.

[HarlemHeat37]

the Lakers would never trade Bynum for Sheed..

[DPG21920]

the Lakers would never trade Bynum for Sheed..

[Ice009]

I don't see the Pistons moving Sheed for anything other than expiring contracts, he won't be with them next season and they know it. Unless they send him to a contender (other than the Spurs) they won't get much or any offers because the other teams will just wait til the off season and most of the contenders can wait too because they don't want to trade any of their youg assets. The Lakers could once again screw us all and trade Bynum or Odom for Sheed and it will be over for the rest of the league and Kobe aand them will be on track for another Jordan-like double 3 peat, which the league would love. Hopefully Laker haters (like the Pistons) will pull a Memphis Grizzle and send Sheed to the Spurs for Bonner after redoing his contract for less and we can laugh as a small market team pulls a fast one on the big market big wigs.

You guys don't think Detroit would be interested in DAF's suggestion of Mahinmi, Splitter's rights, draft picks and/or cash? Seriosuly how could Detroit not be even remotely interested? I think if that was offered The Pistons would start listening.

[DPG21920]

You guys don't think Detroit would be interested in DAF's suggestion of Mahinmi, Splitter's rights, draft picks and/or cash? Seriosuly how could Detroit not be even remotely interested? I think if that was offered The Pistons would start listening.

It has been widely reported that other teams have no interest in Splitter. No one believes he is going to ever come over. Not only that, Ian makes less than 1 million. So the Spurs would need to get a lot more money involved to make the trade work since Splitter has no contract value (and neither do draft picks).

[Summers]

The anticipation is making me crazy.

[Ice009]

It has been widely reported that other teams have no interest in Splitter. No one believes he is going to ever come over. Not only that, Ian makes less than 1 million. So the Spurs would need to get a lot more money involved to make the trade work since Splitter has no contract value (and neither do draft picks).

Those players are only there to sweeten the deal, not for salary purposes. You also include Horry's contract then you add a few more like Finley to make the numbers work who Detroit will then cut and we get back. Very unlikely to happen, but it is not impossible to work something out.

[DPG21920]

In all reality I do not see the Spurs making a trade. Sorry to buzz kill. I would like a smart trade or Rasheed, but I just do not see it.

[galvatron3000]

You guys don't think Detroit would be interested in DAF's suggestion of Mahinmi, Splitter's rights, draft picks and/or cash? Seriosuly how could Detroit not be even remotely interested? I think if that was offered The Pistons would start listening.

Possibly but I hope Ian is not included if a deal takes place. I don't think their is a market for Sheed outside of contenders because of his contract and knowing he won't stay. He will not be apart of the Pistons after this season either, IMO. I think within reason expiring contracts will be the order of the day or atleast ones that expire by 2010, which we have. Bonner, Udoka, Vaughn, Thomas, Finley, Manu etc.

Realistically, Manu is safe til 2010. Everyone else not names Tim, Tony and Roger are safe. Spurs can throw Thomas or Oberto in too but I'd like to keep Kurt too. Bonner would have to be involved in the trade because he spread the floor and has size. Hopefully they can make this trade happen without trading away useful players or more than one useful player. Bowen and Finley could go bt will likely be cut and resigned by the Spurs

[HarlemHeat37]

I actually do think we'll make a trade, but not for a big name like 'Sheed..

[DPG21920]

Those players are only there to sweeten the deal, not for salary purposes. You also include Horry's contract then you add a few more like Finley who Detroit will cut to make the numbers work.

Who can you add? How much do you sign Horry for? How much does this cost the Pistons to buy guys out? How much of that do the Spurs pay for?

[DPG21920]

Not to mention giving up Ian and Splitter (if we are assuming he is going to come over) is pricey for a possible rental.

[Ice009]

Who can you add? How much do you sign Horry for? How much does this cost the Pistons to buy guys out? How much of that do the Spurs pay for?

Well since we don't know how much you can sign Horry for I'd start by using his salary from last season and work from there, then you add other players to match up numbers. I also don't know the rules about trading 5 players to a team that already has a full roster. If you can't do that then you can forget about it.

Spurs should pay for most of the buyouts, but I don't think Holt would ever do that. I'd have to say that The Lakers would have included as much cash a possible for that Gasol deal last season, but I doubt the Spurs will pony up the cash.

It's highly unlikely though as it's getting more complicated by the minute trying to work out the numbers. You are right about that.

[Pistons < Spurs]

The only way I see Sheed in a Spurs uniform is if you wait till next year when he's a free agent, and sign him. The Spurs just don't have any pieces to make any sort of deal work in a trade.

[DPG21920]

Well since we don't know how much you can sign Horry for I'd start by using his salary from last season and work from there, ten you add other players to match up numbers. I also don't know the rules about trading 5 players to a team that already has a full roster. If you can't do that then you can forget about it.

Spurs should pay for most of the buyouts, but I don't think Holt would ever do that. I'd have to say that The Lakers had to have included as much cash a possible for that Gasol deal last season, but I doubt the Spurs will pony up the cash.

It's highly unlikely though as it's getting more complicated by the minute trying to work out the numbers. You are right about that.

You can only have 15 players on a roster. So Detroit would have to cut players before the trade to make roster room If we are trading 5 guys for 1

[Ice009]

You can only have 15 players on a roster. So Detroit would have to cut players before the trade to make roster room If we are trading 5 guys for 1

Well if that's the rule then it's not possible. I thought you could cut players after the trade. You 100% sure on this?

[Ice009]

The only way I see Sheed in a Spurs uniform is if you wait till next year when he's a free agent, and sign him. The Spurs just don't have any pieces to make any sort of deal work in a trade.

Are you guys looking to trade him at all? Even for Amare? What do you think Joe is looking for to trade him?

[DPG21920]

Well if that's the rule then it's not possible. I thought you could cut players after the trade. You 100% sure on this?

I am a 100% sure on the roster limits, so Detroit would have to cut people no matter what, whether it is before or after.

[Ice009]

I am a 100% sure on the roster limits, so Detroit would have to cut people no matter what, whether it is before or after.

If you can do it after a trade then that makes a big difference. If you're not sure on this maybe you shouldn't be saying that it's not possible, being able to cut players after the trade opens up more possibilities.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Are you guys looking to trade him at all? Even for Amare?

I think most of us fans are.... but Joe's only comment so far has been that he's not shopping anyone.

It's believed that he's mostly interested in using Sheed and AI for their expiring contracts for 2010's studs like Bosh and Amare. Which probably makes mroe sense than trading an asset like Sheed now for even a guy like Amare ... only to have him opt out after next year.

I'm not really expecting Detroit to make any moves before the deadline ... other than trying to trade away Alex Acker or Will Bynum. We're about 600,000 above the luxury tax threshold, and each of those guys makes 700,00.

[DPG21920]

If you can do it after a trade then that makes a big difference. If you're not sure on this maybe you shouldn't be saying that it's not possible, being able to cut players after the trade opens up more possibilities.

Where did I say it is impossible? I said you can only have 15 guys. So unless the Spurs trade a 5 for 1 then Detroit buys out 3 of the guys, it does not work.

[Ice009]

Where did I say it is impossible? I said you can only have 15 guys. So unless the Spurs trade a 5 for 1 then Detroit buys out 3 of the guys, it does not work.

I thought you knew for sure that you couldn't do a 5 for 1 trade with a team if they don't have 4 roster spots open.

If all you were saying is the NBA roster limit is 15 then what was the point of that? Almost any NBA fan knows the roster limit is 15 .