Has Sequ appologized yet?

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

If he averages 10 and 7 he would be the best center this team has seen since David Robinson...

Exactly, hence the is totally uncalled for.

Bonner > sequ

[stéphane]

Why not?

How do you know he doesn't?

He's probobly had 5 minutes combined of playoff minutes EVER.

He's like a rookie. An unknown.

To be honest, I'm not Pop to know if he's mentally strong enough to perform in a high intensity close playoff game. But you can't argue that he has big defensive lapses and that his defensive toughness on one on one in the low block is horrible (just take the iso with Perkins against the C's) . Add to that the fact that his rebounding for a center is so so at best. Ok his 3 point stroke spread the floor well on offense and that he's allways giving all he's got but he's obviously the weak spot in our lineup.

[stéphane]

If he averages 10 and 7 he would be the best center this team has seen since David Robinson...

Yup and so far it's 8,4 and 4,8. That's not that close.

[vander]

Yup and so far it's 8,4 and 4,8. That's not that close.

and he's also the cheapest since DRob :

[slayermin]

We need to figure out a way to get all those New Hampshire people to the Staples Center in May.

[SequSpur]

lmao at the Drob references...

Raise the bar.

[vander]

lmao at the Drob references...

Raise the bar.

time frame references, not talent level references

but you knew that

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

To be honest, I'm not Pop to know if he's mentally strong enough to perform in a high intensity close playoff game. But you can't argue that he has big defensive lapses and that his defensive toughness on one on one in the low block is horrible (just take the iso with Perkins against the C's) . Add to that the fact that his rebounding for a center is so so at best. Ok his 3 point stroke spread the floor well on offense and that he's allways giving all he's got but he's obviously the weak spot in our lineup.

You're just a hater, and its honestly that plain and simple.

[stéphane]

You're just a hater, and its honestly that plain and simple.

I'm not hating, learn to read.
So when I say that he's an interesting offensive weapon but a liability at times on D I'm hating?
And you Mr Genius think Matt is an awesome rebounder and as good on D as on O right?

[SequSpur]

huh? d as on o?

this place is getting to lax.

[smeagol]

gay..............................

Gey . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[mookie2001]

He is also the reason Manu is again playing like Manu of old . . .

yeah good stretch, i was looking at the calendar isnt it time for him to be banged up?

hopefully next year he can show up before february

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

I'm not hating, learn to read.
So when I say that he's an interesting offensive weapon but a liability at times on D I'm hating?
And you Mr Genius think Matt is an awesome rebounder and as good on D as on O right?

Pointing out as many of a player's flaws as possible while minimizing their positive aspects = hating.

for being an obtuse broken record, then denying it.

[vander]

He is also the reason Manu is again playing like Manu of old . . .

hmm, are you sure you are watching the right station, you might be on ESPN classics. Manu has NOT been playing like the Manu of old.
I thought you were a Manu fan, Why would you insult him like that?

[EricB]

yeah good stretch, i was looking at the calendar isnt it time for him to be banged up?

hopefully next year he can show up before february

Yeah and maybe UT's basketball team could manage to beat Nebraska.

[stéphane]

Pointing out as many of a player's flaws as possible while minimizing their positive aspects = hating.

You're the one being obtuse. I'm not minimizing anything. That's a fact. Matt brings something, I'm not denying that. But Defense wins championship and Matt is an offensive weapon as much as he's at times a liability on defense. I'm a spurs fan and like defense. I'd prefer to have a strong defensive asset as a starting center, if that's hating on Matt then whatever...

[vander]

I'm not hating, learn to read.
So when I say that he's an interesting offensive weapon but a liability at times on D I'm hating?
And you Mr Genius think Matt is an awesome rebounder and as good on D as on O right?

Off hand, I can't think of any other big man in the NBA making less than 3 million (not on their rookie contract) who is bringing more on both ends of the floor than Bonner. and yet it's still not good enough...

[stéphane]

Off hand, I can't think of any other big man in the NBA making less than 3 million (not on their rookie contract) who is bringing more on both ends of the floor than Bonner. and yet it's still not good enough...

Yeah he's playing well beyond the money we're giving him right now. But as I said in the answer I just gave, it's not about if he's good or not, it's about his role. I'll try to say it again (do my english plainly sucks or what? ), he spreads prefectly the floor on offense, but I don't think he's the piece we'll need in the playoff. We, imo (and disagree all you want, it's an internet message board), need a center with toughness, rebounding, and defensive skill on the low block (and that doesn't miss defensive rotations once every four possessions). Kendrick friggin Perkins scores on him all he wants, what will he do against top offensive Center?

[Bandwagon Spurs Fan]

Off hand, I can't think of any other big man in the NBA making less than 3 million (not on their rookie contract) who is bringing more on both ends of the floor than Bonner. and yet it's still not good enough...

You're the one being obtuse. I'm not minimizing anything. That's a fact. Matt brings something, I'm not denying that. But Defense wins championship and Matt is an offensive weapon as much as he's at times a liability on defense. I'm a spurs fan and like defense. I'd prefer to have a strong defensive asset as a starting center, if that's hating on Matt then whatever...

There's your answer. For a VERY low paid, low maintenance big man, Matt Bonner has exceeded all expectations 100% and contrary to your malicious bantering, has improved in all areas including defense this season - and has more potential to grow.

Hater is all you are. Get real and give Matt Bonner some ing props already.

[stéphane]

Hater is all you are. Get real and give Matt Bonner some ing props already.

I give him all the props you want for the half of regular season he played well. But if you can't understand my preference for a defensive piece at the center position for playoff ball, there's no point arguing together.

[SequSpur]

hmm, are you sure you are watching the right station, you might be on ESPN classics. Manu has NOT been playing like the Manu of old.
I thought you were a Manu fan, Why would you insult him like that?

yeah, the spurs have played 40+ games this year and manu has shown up to 6 of them and actually contributed... most of them recently.

manu isn't even close to his old self, and I doubt he ever will,.

[wisnub]

I feel sorry for Bonner. He did need to prove that he can play in playoffs. But so far he didnt got chance to play more than 5 minutes in playoffs so we still didnt know how he gonna perform. I would like a nice surprise from him, like same thing what he did against Boston..but now i understand more why people hating him. I believe he still can develop some defensive attributes along the line,he's still young and the boy is eager to learn.The point is he need to prove himself and so far he deserved credit. lets stay positive and pray this will follow through to playoffs. For people who that no way he should be starting center in championship team i suggest you find a replacement for him since KT or Oberto is not up to the task. Spurs is known for reserving money and operate under luxury tax so large deal is unlikely, although honestly I hope they dare to do it if its necesary...i think people in this forum should be more positive but i respect all views even the hating or should i said "concerned" ones.

[SequSpur]

Why so serious?

Bonner is doing great right now. Who is feeling sorry for him? I think it's awesome... Bonner was one of the main reasons the spurs beat the celtics recently.

sorry?

[whottt]

Have the Scola fans apologized yet for raising about trading Luis "the difference Abdur Rahim" Scola?

If the Rockets miss the playoffs this year every last one of you that complained needs to go yourselves immediately.

[FreeMason]

Stephen Jackson sucks. The Warriors suck.