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    Bonner handled Garnet, I think he could handle Bynum, He plays D a lot like Duncan, getting his feet in the right spot and standing straight up, doesn't get faked out, and doesn't give up anything easy
    bonner didn't "handle" garnett. garnett scored 26 and grabbed 12 rebounds. that's like saying perkins "handled" duncan. when bonner gets into the right spot and puts his hands straight up, all the opposing center has to do is shoot over him. bonner has t-rex arms. even perkins scored over him and perkins isn't a good back down post scorer.

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    how in the does Bonner have similar skills as Sheed?? No offense to Bonner, but he doesn't even touch Sheed in terms of talent or impact on the game.
    Meh. If you've seen one 6'-10" guy who can hit a 3 pointer occasionally you've seen 'em all..................

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    What people don't have to forget is that spurs have a real gem in Splitter.
    And it has to be part of the thinking before landing an expensive big in SA.

    Should the spurs sacrifice valuable pieces of their current (and future) roster to get now a fat contract center while they have rights of a promising (and already accomplished in Europe) 23 years old center. Not to mention the 2010 plan.

    I don't know spurs FO's state of mind and if they want to optimize duncan's last supposed contending years, but Hill, Mason and Tiago along with Tony and hopefully Ian are the future of SA.

    If Tiago turns out to be what I think he can in NBA and with the 2010 plan,
    spurs could even extend the contending window, in Tim's last years in SA if they can keep that core.

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    how in the does Bonner have similar skills as Sheed?? No offense to Bonner, but he doesn't even touch Sheed in terms of talent or impact on the game.
    Only when Rasheed is in the post. Since he's spent almost no time there since Larry Brown left, his impact has been lessened considerably. If 'sheed isn't inside fifteen feet on the offensive end, he and Bonner are remarkably similar, despite Bonner's huge talent defecit.

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    What people don't have to forget is that spurs have a real gem in Splitter....
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    Spitter will NEVER come to the NBA.

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    Spitter will NEVER come to the NBA.

    Link?

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    Spitter will NEVER come to the NBA.
    Thanks Nostradamus.

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    Only when Rasheed is in the post. Since he's spent almost no time there since Larry Brown left, his impact has been lessened considerably. If 'sheed isn't inside fifteen feet on the offensive end, he and Bonner are remarkably similar, despite Bonner's huge talent defecit.
    Defense? One guy is 7 feet with about a 9'4" standing reach while the other guy is 6'10" with a 8'8" standing reach.

    Plus Sheed can finish inside and still has a Post game which he can utilise when hes shot isnt falling - he may not use it much, but its still there. He sets better screens, and is a smarter player.

    The only similarity is they shoot threes, other than that - not much.

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    bonner didn't "handle" garnett. garnett scored 26 and grabbed 12 rebounds. that's like saying perkins "handled" duncan. when bonner gets into the right spot and puts his hands straight up, all the opposing center has to do is shoot over him. bonner has t-rex arms. even perkins scored over him and perkins isn't a good back down post scorer.
    Its pretty bad when you have a player like Perkins scoring in the paint, I think thats a good indication that the spurs need a big man.

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    Matt Bonner is my homie, but Sheed is a much more complete player. Additionally, I think Pop could exert quite the influence over his positions on the floor, and turn him back into more of a post player, while spreading the floor for the Big 3 when it was time for the bread and butter plays. The most important facet of Sheed's game is his defense. He brings a defensive intensity Bonner doesn't possess, though he tries.

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    Sheed after 7 bong hits >>>> Bonner

    Kaveman, I like. He would be most useful vs. Lakers. and we do need to get past the Lakers. bring him in
    Last edited by hater; 02-10-2009 at 06:35 PM.

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    bonner didn't "handle" garnett. garnett scored 26 and grabbed 12 rebounds. that's like saying perkins "handled" duncan. when bonner gets into the right spot and puts his hands straight up, all the opposing center has to do is shoot over him. bonner has t-rex arms. even perkins scored over him and perkins isn't a good back down post scorer.
    Garnett got many of those points while Bonner wasn't on him, including a desperation 3. Bonner was holding Garnet to less then a point per shot.

    it's funny how many basketball fans get their entire perception of reality from the box scores

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    no thanks
    i trust cuban, if he declined a kidd for Kaman/Davis trade, there must be a reason

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    Garnett got many of those points while Bonner wasn't on him, including a desperation 3. Bonner was holding Garnet to less then a point per shot.

    it's funny how many basketball fans get their entire perception of reality from the box scores
    Bonner played well on both ends Sunday. He's much too physical for KG's power moves around the basket, forcing him into fadeaways. In fact, KG's only open shots all night were with Tim and Ginobili on him.

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    i trust cuban, if he declined a kidd for Kaman/Davis trade, there must be a reason
    um, Cuban let Nash walk, then traded D Harris for Kidd

    it's as if he was trying to sabotage his team

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    Garnett got many of those points while Bonner wasn't on him, including a desperation 3. Bonner was holding Garnet to less then a point per shot.

    it's funny how many basketball fans get their entire perception of reality from the box scores
    26 points from garnett is still 26 points from a bigman scored against the spurs. i just watched the replay of the game on espn last night. bonner barely contested garnett's shots. he can be in front of garnett with his hands up and he would just easily shoot over him. i saw kendrick perkins back down bonner and score at least twice. rivers would not be consistently going to garnett and even perkins if bonner was bothering either one of them.

    bonner was not playing bad defense, he just doesn't have the physical assets to bother opposing centers. bynum is 2 inches taller than perkins with a longer wingspan. bonner won't effectively deny bynum position or stop him from backing down and shooting over him with a small hook. i like his effort but it's not enough.

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    I keep hearing they're still determined to repatriate Chris Kaman, figuring they can go 10-40 just as well without him as with his remaining three years and $33.9 million.
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    morrison, mihm and brown for kaman!

    if kaman had a 1 or 2 year contract i would want him but 3/34 mil is too much IMO.

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    Thanks for linking that.

    The Euro is about 17 cents cheaper than it was in May. Maybe 22 cents.

    The Euro is vastly overvalued and is gonna come down even more.

    So wanna give me a link to where Splitter says hes never coming over?

    Or is that the best you have?

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    26 points from garnett is still 26 points from a bigman scored against the spurs.
    no, it isn't, he was defending KG and co. just as well as our "defensive specialist" KT, and overall, His D was almost as good as TD's. so If that's not good enough for a cheap roll player, on the court mostly for his shooting, then how much more disappointed must you be with TD and KT
    i just watched the replay of the game on espn last night. bonner barely contested garnett's shots. he can be in front of garnett with his hands up and he would just easily shoot over him.
    obviously not easily enough as Garnett was missing plenty
    i saw kendrick perkins back down bonner and score at least twice.
    OMG!!! say it isn't so!!!
    rivers would not be consistently going to garnett and even perkins if bonner was bothering either one of them.
    right, he's got KG on a short leash, a couple missed shots and it'll be Ray-ray & Pierce the rest of the way
    bonner was not playing bad defense, he just doesn't have the physical assets to bother opposing centers.
    right, and what physical assets does Duncan have that make him so much more physically capable then Bonner?
    bynum is 2 inches taller than perkins with a longer wingspan. bonner won't effectively deny bynum position or stop him from backing down and shooting over him with a small hook. i like his effort but it's not enough.
    well damn, why don't we just go get someone who's bigger and stronger than bynum then, those guys are a dime-a-dozen, we should be able to get Amare for the likes of Bonner, Bowen... and... KT just to make the salaries match

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    um, Cuban let Nash walk, then traded D Harris for Kidd

    it's as if he was trying to sabotage his team
    sarcasm

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    thorow in eric gordan and we got a deal

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    no, it isn't, he was defending KG and co. just as well as our "defensive specialist" KT, and overall, His D was almost as good as TD's. so If that's not good enough for a cheap roll player, on the court mostly for his shooting, then how much more disappointed must you be with TD and KT obviously not easily enough as Garnett was missing plentyOMG!!! say it isn't so!!!right, he's got KG on a short leash, a couple missed shots and it'll be Ray-ray & Pierce the rest of the way right, and what physical assets does Duncan have that make him so much more physically capable then Bonner? well damn, why don't we just go get someone who's bigger and stronger than bynum then, those guys are a dime-a-dozen, we should be able to get Amare for the likes of Bonner, Bowen... and... KT just to make the salaries match
    wow you sound like you have a crush on bonner. tell someone who watched bynum play every game that bonner can guard bynum and they will laugh you out of the building. there's more to defense than just staying in front of your opponent with your hands up. TD and thomas will get it right playoff time. i never said a trade was needed just that bonner can't guard bynum. is that too much to hear from a bonner fan like yourself?

    kurt thomas plays much better post defense than bonner because he denies position as well as stay in front of his man. rivers was confident enough in bonner's lack of defense that he made perkins back him down. doesn't matter how much he did it, just that rivers had the confidence to do it. but if you think bonner can guard bynum despite all the signs, i can't argue with you.

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