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That's correct. He was available was my point.
But Beno is ranked 7 overall in the 'Cubes talent database'(tm)...Ridiculous..why over pay for a backup PG that only played well to get his contract? Why add $10 mil in salary for a guy that is maybe slightly better than Barea?
Those rumors of the Mavs trading stack for beno better be false. If the mavs trade stack they sure as get more for that expiring deal than BEo Udrih
You just have to look at this numbers...
That's correct. He was available was my point.
John Salmons and Brad Miller for the Jerry Stackhouse pu-pu platter would be nice.
but Stack is coming back after the all-star break to propel this team to greatness
yeah did you even read my post? I put right at the top that there's reports that Portland is looking to trade for an elite PG. And Baron Davis is available.
The guy we should have traded for 5 years ago when we had the chance.
baron Davis = elite PG ?
barea > baron davis
the only thing I want to trade Kidd for is Kaman but not Baron Davis.I would play terry and barea at PG, keeping B Davis at the end of the bench. B Davis is an elite cheerleader though.
JJB > BenoRidiculous..why over pay for a backup PG that only played well to get his contract? Why add $10 mil in salary for a guy that is maybe slightly better than Barea?
Those rumors of the Mavs trading stack for beno better be false. If the mavs trade stack they sure as better get more for that expiring deal than Beno Udrih
After looking at the contracts...JJB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Beno
This guy is getting ready to return right around the time of the trade deadline? Seems like the Mavs are trying to tout his value either as an expiring or as a veteran off the bench.
Well he has one game against NJ to show what he has bc the trade deadline is the next night on the 19th. i say start him and play him 44 minutes
This seems kinda pointless to me. No one's trading for stack for his skills.
it was sarcasim...everyone knows Stack is done. his only value is his contract and beating up Jazz players
Yet you got all uppity when I told you he wasn't dealt...
The term "inside presence" was tossed around a little too liberally in this thread IMO.
Brand, Bosh, and Garnett don't strike me as "inside presences"... especially on the offensive end, and on defense they're not centers, they're PF's, and we have the best PF in the world
Pau Gasol... he's got some nice post move, very good finesse player, not a "presence", Bynum is the presence of the Lakers, and a Dirk/Gasol frontline is soft as .
Yeah... these inside presences don't grow on trees, not everyone has the fortune of tanking the same year a great big man comes out, and then luck their way into them via lottery.
Kaman and SHaq though, I would consider them inside presences.
We can sit here all day and ponder what the Mavs lacked in recent years that caused them to fall short... interior offense, perimeter defense, "mentality", etc.
But it never really has been the case. Even championship rosters are incomplete. the C's turn it over too much, the Lakers can't guard PG's, the Magic rely on the 3-PT shot, the Cavs get little PF/C production, etc.
The reason we lost in '06 was a statistical fluke series by D-Whistle the primadonna drama queen sex addict who doesn't deserve his ring/wheelchair pussy, bull shots by Gary Payton, and bull whistles in games 3, 5, and 6. Even when playing our "C" brand of basketball, we were the better team if not for all these flukes and bull s. What you call no perimeter D I call bull .
In '07 we lost because Golden State hit a bunch of fluke bull halfcourt H-O-R-S-E shots, and because they lucked their way into the 8 seed. If the Clippers or Lakers wind up in the 8th seed like they were supposed to, we sweep them and go on and win it all, and nobody mentions our lack of low post scoring. What you call no big man I call bull H-O-R-S-E shots.
Mavericks have discussed trade for Carter
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
PHOENIX – New Jersey and Dallas have discussed a trade that would reunite Vince Carter and Jason Kidd with the Mavericks, a league source familiar with the discussions said Thursday night.
The proposed deal, which isn’t imminent, would send Carter, Keyon Dooling and Eduardo Najera to the Mavericks for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse.
Nets executives are still reluctant to trade Carter, but are determined to let teams make their best offers all the way to next Thursday’s trade deadline.
The Mavericks have lost guard Jason Terry to a broken hand and desperately need perimeter scoring to stay a contender in the Western Conference. The Nets’ and Mavericks’ front offices engineered the Jason Kidd-Devin Harris blockbuster at the trade deadline a year ago. Nets GM Kiki Vandeweghe and Mavs GM Donnie Nelson have been active trading proposals, league sources say.
Carter, 31, has inspired significant interest throughout the league. The San Antonio Spurs are pursuing him and have discussed a proposal that would include Roger Mason, Bruce Bowen and Fabricio Oberto. While the Spurs also have interest in Detroit’s Rasheed Wallace, a Pistons source says the teams have not had any conversations.
For the Nets, the motivation to move Carter is mostly financial. The franchise is losing tens of millions of dollars a year and moving Carter would clear more cap space for 2010. Nevertheless, Nets president Rod Thorn wants to make the playoffs and believes he has his best chance with Carter on the roster. Carter is in the second season of a five-year extension that pays him close to $80 million through 2012. Only a fraction of the contract’s final season is guaranteed.
Carter is having a good season, averaging 21 points, five rebounds and five assists. The Nets are 24-29 and one game out of the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.
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Carter is such a divisive figure. He has played well this season, but his past is filled with severe ups and downs. I don't know how he would feel to be reunited with Kidd. There is a part of me that wants to do the deal, but I am not too sure.
The other thing though, Cuban should try to stay away from Rod Thorn as much as he can after what Thorn did to him last year.
why do the mavs insist on a 2 guard when our 3rd best player is a swingman, JET is a 2, and antoine wright is playing amazing? our need is still post scoring as it has been for the entirety of our franchise.
Najera is a good, hard working player. I think the Mavs would come up on top on that trade.
great proposal. Gerald green will have more time at SF and dooling is a pretty good leverage for us to trade for a backup center. Carter is less athletic than he used to be but he's become more skillful and experienced as well, anyway it's a great trade for us even despite getting rid of josh howard.
Najera was good when he had some athleticism to go with his hard work. However he always lacked a true position, too undersized for PF, not a good shooter for a SF. He started to have bad knees in 2003, and now it's 2009. I don't know how much he can contribute now.
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