Amazing. NBA refs truly are pathetic.
Depends on what game. Ginobili gets away with it 2-3 times a game.
^Is that a picture of Ginobili after someone grazes him? I don't get it.
I'll give you the flopping. But singling out Ginobili for traveling is a travesty. I could probably find 500 Lebron 'crab step move' videos before I find one Manu travel. Ginobili just takes a very long second step. He actually comes from Euro ball, where travel is called a lot more than in the NBA.
I'm not defending LeBron here, but as a Ginobili hater, I watch for his traveling violations. He seems to drive to the basket from the 3-pt line taking 3 1/2 steps in the process with regularity. He knows he plays in the NBA where it goes uncalled so he uses it.
When you play alongside someone like Bowen, you quickly learn that rules in the NBA are meant to be broken, as long as the referees and league office look the other way. Bowen has made a career off of that philosophy.
We play Maggette's Warriors tonight. Somebody needs to send that video to the league right now! That is just ridiculous!
Some video backing this up would be more convincing.
I don't think it was that bad. It was a travel, yes. I wouldn't say it's common. But, players get away with similar stuff from time to time. Let's just say what Maggette did isn't something that happens only once a season. Players shuffle feet and switch pivots and get away with it.
I'm not defending officiating at all. But, here's how I see it. The Maggette travel is a situation where he really didn't gain an advantage. I think that's a main point in calling a violation or infraction. That's why players get away with carrying the ball when they dribble all the time. But, when the carry actually gives them an advantage against a defender, the percentage of when it's called goes up.
Maggette walked. I don't think it was that egregious, especially because it gave him no advantage.
WTF? He switched from having his back to the basket to facing the basket all because of travelling. That definitely gives him an advantage. If you're allowed to travel like that you can't be trapped or double-teamed.
On that play, it gave him no advantage because he didn't use the travel to get by his defender. Obviously, it gave him no advantage because he turned the ball over anyway.
You are not allowed to take steps prior to dribbling which means that Lebron took WAY more than one extra step...more like 3-4.
You also aren't required to dribble if you don't have possession of the ball. Lebron tips the ball and runs, catches it, takes one extra step before beginning his dribble and then doesn't travel when he goes up for the dunk. He took three steps but you can take two without dribbling, so it's one extra step. It's clearly traveling, but the NBA isn't going to call it on a guy who makes a play for a breakaway anyway. I saw someone make a steal at the top of the key once and dribbled the ball one time from there to the opposite rim.
But you know they would have whistled that if they'd actually seen it. They don't make that evaluation if they see you switch your pivot foot.
dude...he catches it and takes 3 steps..watch it again...
Difference of opinion, I guess. I think they saw it. How do all three officials not see that? I think if Maggette blows by the defender for a lay-up, they call it.
WTF? FIBA players rarely walk.
Dude...if he'd taken two steps before starting his dribble it wouldn't have been traveling. 3-2=1 extra step. It only takes the one extra step for the violation to become blatant, which is why it looks so bad. Considering it's a guy who thinks he should get away with an extra step in the lane, it's hardly surprising he'd have done that anyway.
wow man..i honestly thought you were pretty knowledgeable about basketball.
So you are saying that anyone can catch the ball, take two steps, then dribble?!
Can someone chime in on this rule?
If you're on the move I believe you can, but not from a standing position. Or something like that.
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Last edited by PM5K; 02-12-2009 at 05:47 PM.
If you start your dribble before what was your plant foot comes back down then that's two steps before the ball hits the floor, and players do it dozens of times in every basketball game on the planet and it's not called traveling. Lebron took a complete step with both hands on the ball before beginning that motion, but part of getting away with those kinds of travels is by not looking awkward while committing them.
Unfortunately, Ginobili is an NBA player and has a history of abusing referee incompetence.
i don't think you should point out Ginobili, i think you should point out qeen james, he travels so much but usually finishes with amazing craftsmenship that the refs rarely call it
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