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For people that think this thread is a waste of time, they sure talk alot of trash in it...
this still going strong?
For people that think this thread is a waste of time, they sure talk alot of trash in it...
Good stuff. I never thought of Javtokas. Anyone think he holds any value in a trade?
Rasheed can put the spurs over the top. They need to make this work.
If this goes through for that crap (no offense!), i'm going to stop watching the Pistons.
not gonna happen. don't even worry
why so serious?
I'm the voice of reason in this thread
Haha^
Rasheed is going to leave Detroit after the end of the season anyway, they might as well get what they can while they have him. He said he wants to play in S.A. so they are trying to appease him.
I dont see how its that big of a stretch that he comes here.
No one needs a voice of reason. Stop talking. Shhhhhhhhhh.
so what in your mind, would it take for SPurs to get Sheed? and use logic.
IMO it would have to take Mason or Hill or both. That won't happen because Pop is not an idiot.
SO this would leave a trade of Finley/Bowen/KT/Oberto/Vaughn. trash players.
This trade would beat the Gasol trade in lopsideness. Pleae think, do you really think this has a chance of happening???
this had a nice run of 22 pgs but i woke up realizing the spurs aint gonna do !
Again, sheed is GONE after this year... no way he re-signs. You get what you can before he leaves and you get nothing, I know its not going to be just Finley and Oberto, thats ing crazy, but its not crazy that the Spurs DO have a chance at getting him. Rasheed has already said he wants to play for the Spurs, why wouldnt the Pistons do everything they can to try and make that happen for him?so what in your mind, would it take for SPurs to get Sheed? and use logic.
IMO it would have to take Mason or Hill or both. That won't happen because Pop is not an idiot.
SO this would leave a trade of Finley/Bowen/KT/Oberto/Vaughn. trash players.
This trade would beat the Gasol trade in lopsideness. Pleae think, do you really think this has a chance of happening???
Generally you're right, but you don't take a couple of things into account IMO. The Pistons are losing Sheed anyway and they're over the lux tax, so they'd rather trade him and get under the threshold, rather than just letting his contract expire. In both cases they'd still make the playoffs but most likely wouldn't go too far. 4/5M profit is a good enough reason to do this trade unless there's something better on the table, which is why FOs sometimes leak some information to notify other clubs who would eventually make a better offer. I find this scenario pretty realistic.so what in your mind, would it take for SPurs to get Sheed? and use logic.
IMO it would have to take Mason or Hill or both. That won't happen because Pop is not an idiot.
SO this would leave a trade of Finley/Bowen/KT/Oberto/Vaughn. trash players.
This trade would beat the Gasol trade in lopsideness. Pleae think, do you really think this has a chance of happening???
Now if, and that's a big if, Pistons don't get a better offer, I believe they do this trade with the Spurs.
that's just my point. I am sure Pistons have a better offer on the table already, if not multiple better offers.
Again, if they want to unload Sheed they will get something of value back. Other teams can offer a whole lot more than SPurs.
True, but that doesnt change the fact that Rasheed said he wants to play for the Spurs and the current rumor is that it might happen that way. I havnt heard of any other rumors involving Rasheed to any other team. We will see, Im not going to believe it either until it happens but the fact remains that the Spurs can get Rasheed if they want to.
Depends on what the Pistons might want. IMO there is no way they get equal value talent wise, and no way they get proper picks for him, because effectively he'd be a 5 month loan, so I don't see other teams offer too much. Besides I don't see him going somewhere like Memphis, he's probably going to a contender , or at least a team with a chance to do well this season, which greatly narrows the possible offers. Teams like Bobcats or Clippers have no need to go for Sheed right now whatsoever so even if they have better chips to trade they wouldn't be offering them for 5 months of an unhappy Sheed.
well both (i beleive) have expiring one year deals with not much money. my guess is joe dumars will see how the next year goes, and maybe tank and play for the draft. but with finley and fab, finley would help as a shooter, but also he would really help them a: avoid luxury tax when they dump him and b: get amare or some other 2010er
IMO we get sheed, we win the le. thats it. floor spreader, knock down shooter, GREAT defender, when hes giving effort, hes an incredible rebounder(something the spurs need more than one of, no offense to KT, but cmon!) and clutch player. tone down the t's and we cant lose! At least thats my hope.
Logically, I can't see the Spurs being able to swing a deal to land Sheed. But just for sake of discussion here's an attempt at trying to inject some logic into a dream.so what in your mind, would it take for SPurs to get Sheed? and use logic.
IMO it would have to take Mason or Hill or both. That won't happen because Pop is not an idiot.
SO this would leave a trade of Finley/Bowen/KT/Oberto/Vaughn. trash players.
This trade would beat the Gasol trade in lopsideness. Pleae think, do you really think this has a chance of happening???
In order for this to work there needs to be a third team involved. That third team needs to meet the following criteria:
1. They need to be in a pure cash dumping mode. Be it for avoiding the luxury tax this year, trying to clear cap room for 2010 or whatever. Clearing cash is important, getting talent in return isn't.
2. They need to have a good young player on a reasonable contract that they could send to Detroit. Detroit won't move Sheed unless they get talent in return and the Spurs roster fodder won't cut it. The primary piece of return talent for Detroit would have to come from the third team.
3. They need to be a team who doesn't care about the Spurs or Pistons getting better. For example, New Orleans is facing some financial trouble and needs to dump some payroll, but they're not going to be a part of any deal that helped the Spurs out. So realistically this third team needs to be a borderline playoff team, or worse.
4. They're probably going to have an undesireable contract or two that the Spurs would need to agree to take back.
So the basic framework of the deal would look like this:
Detroit trades Sheed away in return for Player X.
Third team trades Player X for cap/tax relief.
Spurs pick up Sheed in return for helping Third team get cap/tax relief.
So is there such a 3rd team? Who knows. Even if there were what are the odds that both them and the Pistons feel the Spurs are the only ones who can help them out?
sheeeeeeeed!
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