ESPN Radio Rumor: Rasheed for fab and finley (and others)

[Blake]

Logically, I can't see the Spurs being able to swing a deal to land Sheed. But just for sake of discussion here's an attempt at trying to inject some logic into a dream.

In order for this to work there needs to be a third team involved. That third team needs to meet the following criteria:

1. They need to be in a pure cash dumping mode. Be it for avoiding the luxury tax this year, trying to clear cap room for 2010 or whatever. Clearing cash is important, getting talent in return isn't.
2. They need to have a good young player on a reasonable contract that they could send to Detroit. Detroit won't move Sheed unless they get talent in return and the Spurs roster fodder won't cut it. The primary piece of return talent for Detroit would have to come from the third team.
3. They need to be a team who doesn't care about the Spurs or Pistons getting better. For example, New Orleans is facing some financial trouble and needs to dump some payroll, but they're not going to be a part of any deal that helped the Spurs out. So realistically this third team needs to be a borderline playoff team, or worse.
4. They're probably going to have an undesireable contract or two that the Spurs would need to agree to take back.

So the basic framework of the deal would look like this:

Detroit trades Sheed away in return for Player X.
Third team trades Player X for cap/tax relief.
Spurs pick up Sheed in return for helping Third team get cap/tax relief.

So is there such a 3rd team? Who knows. Even if there were what are the odds that both them and the Pistons feel the Spurs are the only ones who can help them out?

coyotes geek is sheer greatness.

[Dr. Gonzo]

As much as I would love for this to happen, I have loved Sheeds game since his Tarheel days but couldn't be a fan of his because he has never been a Spur, I seriously doubt this happens. Usually the Spurs make trades without any rumor being thrown out before hand. I would really be shocked if it goes down.

[AA2120]

Logically, I can't see the Spurs being able to swing a deal to land Sheed. But just for sake of discussion here's an attempt at trying to inject some logic into a dream.

In order for this to work there needs to be a third team involved. That third team needs to meet the following criteria:

1. They need to be in a pure cash dumping mode. Be it for avoiding the luxury tax this year, trying to clear cap room for 2010 or whatever. Clearing cash is important, getting talent in return isn't.
2. They need to have a good young player on a reasonable contract that they could send to Detroit. Detroit won't move Sheed unless they get talent in return and the Spurs roster fodder won't cut it. The primary piece of return talent for Detroit would have to come from the third team.
3. They need to be a team who doesn't care about the Spurs or Pistons getting better. For example, New Orleans is facing some financial trouble and needs to dump some payroll, but they're not going to be a part of any deal that helped the Spurs out. So realistically this third team needs to be a borderline playoff team, or worse.
4. They're probably going to have an undesireable contract or two that the Spurs would need to agree to take back.

So the basic framework of the deal would look like this:

Detroit trades Sheed away in return for Player X.
Third team trades Player X for cap/tax relief.
Spurs pick up Sheed in return for helping Third team get cap/tax relief.

So is there such a 3rd team? Who knows. Even if there were what are the odds that both them and the Pistons feel the Spurs are the only ones who can help them out?

new york??

david lee??

[dogzofwar]

I guess I am one of the few that would dread a deal like this. I'm sorry but Sheed to Spurs would be like Owens to the Cowboys....great on paper but just not the piece they really need. The man would have been suspended for tech fouls in the playoffs for goodness sake...and yall want to bring that into our house...Pass. If you are going to give up some of your future for a big man now...go after Camby. Much more proficient on offense, leaps ahead of Sheed on defense, and knows his role in a system. Oh yeah...you don't have to worry about him giving free points to the other team because of temper.

[dogzofwar]

Sorry...efficient not proficient.

[DBMethos]

Maybe Sheed is the smokescreen for Camby? There's still 6 days until the trade deadline...I doubt that Pop & RC will have showed all their cards this early.

[coyotes_geek]

new york??

david lee??

JMO, but I don't think the Knicks move David Lee unless someone takes Eddy Curry with him. Under the scenario I described it would be the Spurs who would have to take Curry and I can't see them wanting any part of that contract.

[Cry Havoc]

New York also gets picks in the deal.

Bowen and Finley come back to SA.

I think this works in favor of all three teams and makes everyone better.

[RandomGuy]

Logically, I can't see the Spurs being able to swing a deal to land Sheed. But just for sake of discussion here's an attempt at trying to inject some logic into a dream.

In order for this to work there needs to be a third team involved. That third team needs to meet the following criteria:

1. They need to be in a pure cash dumping mode. Be it for avoiding the luxury tax this year, trying to clear cap room for 2010 or whatever. Clearing cash is important, getting talent in return isn't.
2. They need to have a good young player on a reasonable contract that they could send to Detroit. Detroit won't move Sheed unless they get talent in return and the Spurs roster fodder won't cut it. The primary piece of return talent for Detroit would have to come from the third team.
3. They need to be a team who doesn't care about the Spurs or Pistons getting better. For example, New Orleans is facing some financial trouble and needs to dump some payroll, but they're not going to be a part of any deal that helped the Spurs out. So realistically this third team needs to be a borderline playoff team, or worse.
4. They're probably going to have an undesireable contract or two that the Spurs would need to agree to take back.

So the basic framework of the deal would look like this:

Detroit trades Sheed away in return for Player X.
Third team trades Player X for cap/tax relief.
Spurs pick up Sheed in return for helping Third team get cap/tax relief.

So is there such a 3rd team? Who knows. Even if there were what are the odds that both them and the Pistons feel the Spurs are the only ones who can help them out?

Jeez, this thread got long quick. I have only read a few pages, but this is obviously the best take on it I have seen.

If Sheed were willing to take a pay cut, that would help, too. , I think every Spur on the roster would be willing to take a pay cut to be virtually guaranteed to get another ring, if not two or three.

This would be the decade of the Spurs... (wipes drool from chin)

[RandomGuy]

Originally Posted by hater

I'm the voice of Laker fans in this thread

fixed

[RandomGuy]

I'm the voice of reason in this thread[, this trade won't happen.]

Man, we can dream can't we?

Don't take that away, Grinchy McScroogepants.

[JudynTX]

coyotes geek is sheer greatness.

+1

[benefactor]

New York also gets picks in the deal.

Bowen and Finley come back to SA.

I think this works in favor of all three teams and makes everyone better.

There is no need to send Bowen if we sign and trade Horry for 4 million.

[coyotes_geek]

New York also gets picks in the deal.

Bowen and Finley come back to SA.

I think this works in favor of all three teams and makes everyone better.

If New York were truly willing to trade away David Lee for just Mahinmi and picks then the Spurs should just forget about Sheed and Detroit and go make that deal. I'd even be willing to sweeten the pot for the Knicks by tossing in Ime Udoka. But what can I say? I'm a sucker for charity.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if it costs us our bench to get sheed, do it

if some of the traded players arent bought out by the other team,

we can just sit and wait till marbury is bought out, we sign him to minimum see if he wants to win a ring b4 he bolts to europe.....

[FreeMason]

I would be willing to give up Bowen, Finley, and..................damnit.......maybe even Hill

[dogzofwar]

I would hate to see Bowen in any kind of trade talks...if he was planning on returning to Spurs or not. Anyone who has watched the games can see when he steps on the floor how much our D shores up with Bowen just being there. It is an entirely different team with him out there. And I wouldn't gamble that when we have other meat shields we can throw at the deal makers (sorry Fab/Finley/Vaughn/Hairston/Udoka/and yes...even Bonner or Hill).

[DPG21920]

Logically, I can't see the Spurs being able to swing a deal to land Sheed. But just for sake of discussion here's an attempt at trying to inject some logic into a dream.

In order for this to work there needs to be a third team involved. That third team needs to meet the following criteria:

1. They need to be in a pure cash dumping mode. Be it for avoiding the luxury tax this year, trying to clear cap room for 2010 or whatever. Clearing cash is important, getting talent in return isn't.
2. They need to have a good young player on a reasonable contract that they could send to Detroit. Detroit won't move Sheed unless they get talent in return and the Spurs roster fodder won't cut it. The primary piece of return talent for Detroit would have to come from the third team.
3. They need to be a team who doesn't care about the Spurs or Pistons getting better. For example, New Orleans is facing some financial trouble and needs to dump some payroll, but they're not going to be a part of any deal that helped the Spurs out. So realistically this third team needs to be a borderline playoff team, or worse.
4. They're probably going to have an undesireable contract or two that the Spurs would need to agree to take back.

So the basic framework of the deal would look like this:

Detroit trades Sheed away in return for Player X.
Third team trades Player X for cap/tax relief.
Spurs pick up Sheed in return for helping Third team get cap/tax relief.

So is there such a 3rd team? Who knows. Even if there were what are the odds that both them and the Pistons feel the Spurs are the only ones who can help them out?

I already posted that I thought the Thunder can be this team. They have stated they have an interest in Amir amongst others and have the picks, players and relationship to help.

[SequSpur]

This is total bull .

[xtremesteven33]

I get a good hunch about this.

But i chose to remain skeptical.

[EricB]

I'm the voice of reason in this thread

Save it for somewhere else.

[PDXSpursFan]

Yes to Sheed or Camby, no to VC

[DPG21920]

Ya, I do not think anyone is saying this is guaransheed*, but it did not just come from no where. Teams talk all the time, does not mean there is any thing real. But it is nice to discuss.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

I hate getting my hopes up....

[EricB]

Ya, I do not think anyone is saying this is guaransheed*, but it did not just come from no where. Teams talk all the time, does not mean there is any thing real. But it is nice to discuss.

Eh I don't think theres BS here. I think theres truely smoke there because I don't think Chris Duel is a liar and he wouldn't BS.

We shall see.