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Spot on.
Damn I hope something happens, PLLLLLEEEEAAASE LET IT HAPPEN! And this sucks I'm gonna be gone for the wkend hopefully I can still log on or catch sportscenter for some breaking news about sheed to the Spurs while I'm gone!
Spot on.
Nah, thats actually one of the more reasonable trades I've seen.
Don't sell yourself short
That would be a good trade for everyone and an ideal scenario.
Impossible. That would leave the Spurs with a 10-man roster, only 8 of whom would have been with the team since the beginning of the season. That would improve the center position, but completely blow out the team's depth.
i understand, but wouldnt Detroit buyout Bowen and Finley?
it was worth a shot
Yes, that is the understanding. They would use either a combo of cash considerations or luxury tax sharing money to buy out players.
The players traded weren't playing that many minutes, so the depth thing is moot. Also Bowen would be bought out most likely and would come back.
I would hate to lose bowen.
Meh, only 2 get any minutes at all, and with Sheed, there'd be no smallball, so the wings could concentrate soley on the 2 and 3. I think Manu, Mason, and Hairston could hold the fort for a month. JV, Ime, Ian, and Fab don't see the court anyways, so that doesn't matter. , I really don't want to lose Tiago or Ian for Sheed, maybe Chandler, but not for a 35yr old.
Not a problem. They'd sign Pops Mensah and someone else, then wait for the fellas to get cut and come back around.
That trade makes absolutely no sense for Detroit. They would be giving up one of their top trade assets (Wallace) with an expiring contract, as well as a good young player that they like (Johnson), and they'd get back four spares, two of whom need to be bought out or otherwise paid for next season. In other words they would be taking a huge net-loss in talent and a equally huge net-increase in salary beyond this season.
if Detroit gets a better offer for Sheed, they'll probably take it instantly over ours..I think ours will be a last option kind of thing..
regardless, this trade depends on 2 things IMO..
-another team being involved..OKC like DPG said..
-Sheed asking for a trade, behind the scenes..Pistons are a classy org. so they might accomadate him with the trade he wants..it wouldn't hurt them if they don't have any other good trade options, since they would be getting the same cap room in the off-seson..
I'm in the boat that our trade is probably one of their last options, unless nobody is going after 'Sheed right now..
Man, I feel so bad for Detroit. I loved this team when they have that awesome five but now, if Sheed comes to San Antonio, they are just going to be done. But I wonder if Sheed will work well under the Spurs system. If he does then great but I don't know, I'm worried about trades.
I agree. Thats why maybe this rumor has come out cause maybe it is true. Maybe the best offers theyve gotten are from Eastern Conference teams and they dont want to trade within thier own conference.
I hope it happens. I still remain skeptical but I do hope this happens.
Dont know if this has been posted yet.
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...d-to-spur.html
Rasheed to Spurs? Don't hold your breath
By
Jeff McDonald
on Feb 13, 2009 11:32 AM
There seems to be a substantial amount of wind being blown these days, in cyberspace and on radio airwaves, about a possible Spurs trade for Rasheed Wallace.
The rumor probably had its genesis with this ESPN.com column, in which Marc Stein reports "rumbles" that Wallace would have interest in joining the Spurs at some time.
OK, well, that's fine and good. The part people seem to be missing in the Wallace-induced fervor, is the next paragraph Stein writes, the one that begins "Don't see a real trade possibility here." That's the money paragraph. Because there isn't a real trade possibility there.
Wallace makes nearly $14 million, and Detroit GM Joe Dumars appears intent on accepting only expiring contracts in any deal for any player. Dumars also reportedly hasn't given up hope in joining the Amare Stoudemire sweepstakes, of which Wallace would be a required part. Put together, these factors would make it very, very difficult for the Spurs to do the math neccesary to nab Wallace.
The Spurs have only two players with expiring contracts -- Jacque Vaughn ($1.2 million) and Ime Udoka ($1.08 million). That's a long, long way off from the $14 million they'd need to clear from their payroll to make a deal for Wallace legal. As far as hurdles go, it's the Great Wall of China.
We're not saying it's impossible. Just highly improbable.
With a dearth of expiring contracts -- the golden chips in these salary-dump deals -- the Spurs are likely facing a quiet trading season. It is well-known that they would like to add another big man, but it also well-known they probably don't have the pieces to land anyone of consequence.
A sign-and-trade with Robert Horry could open more doors, but as of last night, Horry hadn't heard word one from the Spurs.
So if, you're holding your breath waiting for Wallace to don silver and black, you're likely to be blue until July at the earliest. Wallace will be a free agent then, and if he were willing to work for substantially less than $14 million, the Spurs would surely listen.
damnit, i know the sheed trade probably wont work now but you never know anything can happen in the NBA.
He obviously does not understand luxury tax, cash compensation and buyouts.
thanks for the update mardigan... damn sheed would scare the whole flakers fanbase really bad... they'd be ranting on insecure ing forever....
Detroit fans are saying it is more likely that the Pistons just keep Wallace than trade him to the Spurs. They think that is better.
So this Jeff Mcdonald guy isnt too popular here on Spurstalk is he???
haha
He is right at face value. But he is not taking into account that they can buy guys out, keep their space, involve a 3rd team, get an asset and be under the luxury tax. There are some incentives to trade.
Someone before mentioned other teams being able to offer better, but the only teams Sheed helps are contenders. So that narrows down the list quite a bit.
Well, it's bad news that Horry hasn't been approached about this possibility.
On the other hand, there aren't many people who would turn down free money, so maybe Horry is the last person you talk to in this deal.
Damn, if this goes through, I don't think it'll happen right before the deadline. Dumars isn't a dummy like Chris Wallace so he's got to at least wait to the very end see if anybody sweetens the offer.
I''ve got to stop checking this site and ESPN every 15 minutes.
i still dont see it. why are the pistons taking non-expirings for sheed? to net some marginal assets? , in the okc versions ive seen here, they dont even net the marginal assets. i dont get it...
It was true ,,do u really think he would tell all to it up?
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