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    thats what that guy from sportcenter said about a hour ago when they were talking about th jermain oneal and shawn marion trade that oklahoma is looking to get rid of watson and/or wilcox for luxary tax reason im just postin what i heard

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    This pretty much proves what I was saying earlier..
    Lets see you idiots go at this guy..
    I'm done...
    Thread closed.

    Except your 100% wrong in the complete subject.

    Take it somewhere else jackass.

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    I get the impression that OKC is fine with just standing pat and letting Wilcox expire. Otherwise, wouldn't they be playing him?
    It is weird? I think they may be trying to get something for him. The latest reports confirmed that OKC has interest in trading w/ Detroit for Amir Johnson.

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    thats what that guy from sportcenter said about a hour ago when they were talking about th jermain oneal and shawn marion trade that oklahoma is looking to get rid of watson and/or wilcox for luxary tax reason im just postin what i heard
    OKC may be looking to get rid of watson & wilcox, but it won't have any affect on their tax situation. Tax threshold is $71.15 mil, their team payroll is like $65 mil.

    Most announcers and writers don't understand how all that stuff works to begin with.

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    I wonder if a 3 team trade is in the works? Rasheed to the spurs?

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    It is weird? I think they may be trying to get something for him. The latest reports confirmed that OKC has interest in trading w/ Detroit for Amir Johnson.
    They very well may be. I just find it odd that they've basically buried Wilcox on the bench and haven't been all that active on the trade buzz, despite having loads of draft picks, young talent and expiring contracts.

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    When I saw the thread heading, I yelled "Sheeeeeeed" load enough for one of my co-workers to peep into my office.
    Then I saw the page count, and I said if reading through 24 pages is what it takes for the FO to pull this one up, I'll do it...gladly.
    One hour and 27 minutes later, I finished reading the whole thread and....

    "if reading through 26 pages is what it take for the FO to pull this one up, I'll do it again..."

    I usually don't post. Not that I don't like, but I can not find myself to write as eloquently and knowledgably as some of the ST posters. So why put crap like this in every thread, but I think that this is a special one. I think that Sheed will get us over the top. I used to live in Detroit and my company has season tickets as well as a corporate lounge. I've seen him playing quite often and Sheed is what we are missing: a defensive anchor to help Tim lock the paint both with rebounds and blocks. As bonuses, he comes with a deadly 3-point shooting, a winning mentality, and an intimidating stance (people really think twice before attacking his side).

    So take it at face value...this is my contribution and vote of hope to make this real.
    You know, eventually, if everybody put their grain of hope...it might happen. So, do it!
    Worse thing that can happen is just the empty feeling that all Spurs fan already know when blockbusters trades are being talked about. So all of you should be used to by now.
    Go Spurs Go!

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    no way in they trade Lee for Ian. no way.
    And why not?

    New York is currently paying out $97 million in salary.

    David Lee's contract expires this year at $1.7 mil.

    He's going to get at LEAST $9-10 mil per season.

    No way in the Knicks can afford that. They're $39,000,000 OVER the cap right now. Add Lee's salary after this year and you're talking a 30-40 million dollar contract. Lee is going somewhere else. Why not get a potentially decent post player and some picks for him?

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    And why not?

    New York is currently paying out $97 MILLION in salary.

    David Lee's contract expires this year at $1.7 mil.

    He's going to get at LEAST $9-10 mil per season.

    No way in the Knicks can afford that. They're $39,000,000 OVER the cap right now. Lee is going somewhere else. Why not get a potentially decent post player and some picks for him?
    ny can and will pay the tax to keep talent (97 mil is actually one of their lower figures in recent years). they may look to move lee after signing him (to maximize their 2010 cap space), but they arent moving him for scraps just because.

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    And why not?

    New York is currently paying out $97 million in salary.

    David Lee's contract expires this year at $1.7 mil.

    He's going to get at LEAST $9-10 mil per season.

    No way in the Knicks can afford that. They're $39,000,000 OVER the cap right now. Add Lee's salary after this year and you're talking a 30-40 million dollar contract. Lee is going somewhere else. Why not get a potentially decent post player and some picks for him?
    Because they can do much better than that.

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    Joe Dumars said the other day that he would not make a trade unless it made the team better, and not just for the future. So, yes, it would require a third team. He's also not trying to add salary. Both Oberto and Bowen have contracts next season, even if they do expire for 2010. There hasn't been any rumors here in Detroit about a trade with the Spurs. Dumars would have to get a big man back that can help now. Who would that be?

    I still say there's no chance of a trade where Rasheed goes to the Spurs could happen, but more and more talk of the rumor appears to be giving it some legs.

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    I really hate trade rumor threads. 99% of the time, the trade doesn't happen.

    And if we really need a big (I don't think we do), then they should just trade Manu already. Yes we all love him and he's the reason we have 3 championships, but if we can give up one of the Big Three, then he's the one.

    If not, then lets stop the trade rumor threads and stick with what we have because a trade isn't going to happen.

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    Joe Dumars said the other day that he would not make a trade unless it made the team better, and not just for the future. So, yes, it would require a third team. He's also not trying to add salary. Both Oberto and Bowen have contracts next season, even if they do expire for 2010. There hasn't been any rumors here in Detroit about a trade with the Spurs. Dumars would have to get a big man back that can help now. Who would that be?

    I still say there's no chance of a trade where Rasheed goes to the Spurs could happen, but more and more talk of the rumor appears to be giving it some legs.
    Rome just covered it with Reggie. This rumor is killing me.

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    that's just my point. I am sure Pistons have a better offer on the table already, if not multiple better offers.

    Again, if they want to unload Sheed they will get something of value back. Other teams can offer a whole lot more than SPurs.
    And Rasheed can turn around and do what he did to get to Detroit and say he's not playing for the team he is traded to.

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    This trade works for SA, PHX and DET.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...tradeId=cttxeo

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    Was watching jim rome who had Reggie Miller on the show,and rome brought up the possibility of the Spurs trading for Wallace and asked Miller if the Spurs should make the trade. Miller of course said yes, and that it would be our pau gasol type trade. So there's some truth to this rumor. Hope they make it happen.

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    Its like the media doesnt want to talk about it so it doesnt get any kind of legs and it will just go away, knowing if they do get Wallace thats it for the NBA....

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    The only thing I see about that is that no one wants Amare right now. If Detroit got Amare the fans there would kill themselves, because it would be the last they see of post defense for a while in Detroit.

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    You seriously believe that?

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    You seriously believe that?
    Well, they did trade for Iverson.

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    Joe Dumars said the other day that he would not make a trade unless it made the team better, and not just for the future. So, yes, it would require a third team. He's also not trying to add salary. Both Oberto and Bowen have contracts next season, even if they do expire for 2010. There hasn't been any rumors here in Detroit about a trade with the Spurs. Dumars would have to get a big man back that can help now. Who would that be?

    I still say there's no chance of a trade where Rasheed goes to the Spurs could happen, but more and more talk of the rumor appears to be giving it some legs.
    I am pretty sure that both Oberto and Bowen are not guaranteed for next year.

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    I am pretty sure that both Oberto and Bowen are not guaranteed for next year.
    no, they are partially guaranteed for 1/2 their salary. again, i cant see detroit taking non expirings for sheed...

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    no, they are partially guaranteed for 1/2 their salary. again, i cant see detroit taking non expirings for sheed...
    Ok, so if they save millions in luxury tax by doing a deal, negotiate a buyout (which would be very cheap) then they are expired contracts, no?

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    Ok, so if they save millions in luxury tax by doing a deal, negotiate a buyout (which would be very cheap) then they are expired contracts, no?
    the luxury tax impact this year has nothing to do with their cap figures next years (detroit wants to maximize cap space, especially considering the impact the current economic state may have on the cap).

    for them to become expiring, they would have to accept a very small buyout, which is very, very uncommon (dice took a significant cut to return to detroit though). and i cant see bowen doing this, considering all the pay cuts he took through his years on the spurs.

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    im guessing this wont go thru until the trade deadline. sucks that this thread was created so early because now i cant wait..

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