Amare wants to be the #1 guy, but he won't pay the price. He would be more effective as a #2 or#3 option like he would be in Cleveland.
Still, seems like a sign and trade would be more appropriate for him than just getting pennies on the dollar. Sarver must be really hurting financially right now.
To me, the two things that gives the rumor any life at all is Steve Kerr's association with the Cleveland Cavaliers and his relationship with Danny Ferry. The deal in itself makes no sense from Phoenix's side. But, because of last year's Gasol trade, you almost have to at least acknowledge a trade this stupid is possible.
JJ was the 19th overall pick in a league that has seven more teams than it had the year KJ was drafted (7th). It's not that big of a discrepency, especially when you consider that JJ is a post player and not a small guard. The point is, I'm sure Suns fans back in 1988 thought Larry Nance was worth more than a rookie guard, a couple of bench players, and a first-round pick. If JJ turns into an 18-10 player who isn't a distraction, he'll be worth the cost of unloading a player who obviously isn't going to be in Phoenix much longer.
Actually, I'm wondering at this point if the Suns are going to get a better deal than this. Really. The only team I see offering up a better package is Portland, and they don't seem inclined to do so. Chicago's offer is a poo-poo platter.
if cavs fan think JJ is so good how come they dont keep him?
If the Cavs thought Kevin Johnson was so good, how come they didn't keep him?
If the Lakers thought Junior Bridgeman and Brian Winters were so good, how come they didn't keep them?
Etc, etc...
That's quite the hypothetical. If Goran Dragic turns into a 30-15 player, would you guys trade Lebron for him?
Sure it is. But aren't all deals like these about the hypothetical? It isn't as if this would be the first time one team traded a potential star for a current star. There are gambles made on potential all the time, in this game and in others. The Suns made the same gamble when they traded Larry Nance for KJ.
Say it with me "The...Suns....are....rebuilding" they are not trying to win a le this year, or next year. They are shopping for projects not All Stars. Your owner can not afford All Stars, he can afford projects. The teams with all the hyped rookies don't want to give them up because Amare won't resign there. The other trades the Suns are being offered, offer them less cap relief, and are forcing conditions on the Suns- like the Bulls giving Gooden and Thomas if you take Noah and or Hughes. The Cavs deal maximizes the cap situation and gives a good rookie with it. I know we aren't trading you Lebron James, but you shouldn't hate it that much- considering your owner is the one that has thrown in the towel.
I like plenty of players, just not whiny divas or Brazil s that flop like it's a soccer game.
I would take the Chicago package for sure. The Cleveland package is in all likelihood nothing, JJ Hickson is not that good. Just because I don't want a couple of scrubs doesn't mean I want two future hall of famers, you're putting words in my mouth now.
I'll say it again, I want the Chicago trade.Your team is trying to rebuild, but you want proven guys. That's not how it works man, you can't do both.
It's a pet peeve of mine when people act like a big baller posting on a fan website, "My inside sources tell me...." so I act like a whenever it happens. If this trade happens I'll believe he's a reliable source. Until then, he's a nerd that's seeking attention like 80% of the realgm members.And what is your problem with the source guy? Your constantly mocking me for saying that but the guy has proven himself.
Amare doesn't want out, he's said multiple times he wants to remain with the Suns. Amare deep down knows he has it easy in Phoenix w/o a media that will go after him for not playing D, if he were to play on the same team as Lebron he would have to play D or the media would eat his ass up. And why would I be frustrated my least favorite player wants out? He's a cancer.My feeling is that you are just upset that Amare wants out of the powerful Suns organization and you are mad that the Suns are in decline so you have to take your frustrations out on everyone else
Nobody is going to give up 2 key pieces to rent him for a year...so that is why Cleveland can get by with what looks like a lopsided offer. Amare has been on the market now for over a week, and nobody must have made a deal to Phoenix's liking[/QUOTE]How am I the only one that can figure this out...
If Amare tells the Grizzlies or Bulls or whoever else that he might not resign in 2010, that then all those trade scenarios you hear about are done.
They are in all likelihood keeping him past the trade deadline. There would be an uproar with the fans if Amare for the Wally Szerbiak poo poo platter happened. Sarver knows that he's risking a bunch of empty seats, I'd be very surprised if they traded emire at this point.
WTF is your definition of good?
JJ Hickson 4.4 points per game.....S-T-U-D!!!!
becuase he is raw. The guy can cleanup around the rim and can score, but he is 2 years out of high school and is still very raw. Since the Cavs are good he doesn't play much in the rotation, but if he were traded to a place where they aren't concerned about winning a championship he could learn and be good in a year or 2
Did u see what lamar did to this guy, i mean it was lamar, he made lamar look like Tim Duncan
Maybe. One reason why I might hate this trade is given the Suns ability to develop players (or lack thereof) Hickson will be useless after Porter has a month to kill the kid's confidence.
Well thankfully for us Cavs' fans you are just a 14 year old sitting behind your Dad's computer while he is at work and not the GM of the Suns- I mean you just called him ' emire'...who says that? That is painfully not funny.
Also, there will be no way Suns' fans will turn their back on the organization because they are such diehards. They could trade Amare for Adolph Hitlers bones and have Adolf Hitler night every Saturday and Suns fans will be there loud and proud because that is what Phoenix is known for.
LOL is that a joke? I never said the Suns had a bunch of loyal fans or anything, the arena is already dyeing down severely, if all the Mexicans no longer get to see Amare's garbage time dunks, they'll have no reason to go to the game.
If Amare gets traded we're back to the Starbury years where half the arena is empty.
might not want to generalize about our friends south of the boarder on this site as I would assume 15-20% of the people that post on here are Mexican.
Whatever, I can't count how many times I've heard a Laker fan say, "Drunk Mexicans that sit in the upper deck."
You can say the same thing for white Suns fans, almost all of them are Steve Nash homers.
the amount of love for Nash and Amare pisses me off.
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