smokescreen
is there any evidence that the spurs will do it? Or did the spurs really offer G.Hill and Mason? Or is it just some media stuff?
There are multiple threads on this.
Don't be lazy.
R-E-A-D
P.S.
From what I am reading here, I don't think many Spurs fans realzie how Carter's game has evolved in recent years.
Carter is mostly a jumpshooter these days, can hit the 3 and drive when he need to and has actually become a very clutch shooter for the Nets as of late.
The injury tag is not a major concern anymore.
I actually think he'd be perfect for the Spurs and if they could sneak S. Williams in the deal, that would solve two needs. He's a young PF/C who blocks shots and is athletic but very raw. I mentioned his name in this very Forum last year and was laughed at.
Typical.
Stop with the dumb threads
He's also a ing psycho. Chicago actually nixed a trade with NJ earlier this season because NJ insisted on including him, and CHI wanted no part of that . If he's so ing good, why has he only played 19 games at 10 minutes per for a bad team?
Noooooooooooooooooo
This talk is being mentioned again over at Hoopshype, which is stating that Bowen, Oberto, Hill and Mason will be involved. I'm against it myself.
I did not say Sean Williams was that "fvcking good."
I said that he'd be an Popportunistic acquisition.
And to answer your question, S. Williams plays behind B. Lopez, J. Boone, Y. Jilani, and R. Anderson, old man.
Take your meds and calm down.
P.S.
Did you know our president is half Black?
Let's see: NBA journeyman,NBA journeyman,NBA journeyman,NBA journeyman. Yeah, he must be great if he can't crack that rotation.
Yes. I voted for him in the primary and the general election. What, again, does that have to do with basketball players? I do see the corrollation with the meds, though, since Psycho Williams needs them.
No, if they really want to rid themselves of Carter, who I dont want.......I will take Carter on one condition.....they have to include Lopez in the deal. Since I know they would never do that, at least not for what we are offering....then cool.
The lastest from McDonald, this is in the monster Carter thread too.
Carter buzz heating up
By Jeff McDonald
That Vince-Carter-to-Spurs rumor seems to have heated up overnight, with some sources indicating San Antonio to be the most likely destination for the mercurial New Jersey shooting guard.
The latest scenario would have the Spurs sending Roger Mason, George Hill, Fabricio Oberto and Bruce Bowen to New Jersey for Carter. New Jersey would then immediately waive Oberto and Bowen, to get themselves under the 15-man roster limit.
The benefit for the Spurs would be obvious: They would acquire an elite, All-Star caliber scorer on the wing. The deal, however, would not be painless: They would have to part with Mason, a top-notch 3-point shooter, and Hill, a rookie point guard who had figured prominently into the team's long range plans.
The benefit for the Nets would be mostly financial. They would clear Carter's $16.1 million salary from the books.
No deal was imminent as of this morning, but this development will be something worth monitoring throughout All-Star Weekend.
UPDATE: One problem with the deal proposed here. Under NBA rules, it would be illegal. In order for a team to take four players for one, it must make room on the 15-man roster BEFORE the deal is consummated. It doesn't matter if the plan is to waive a couple of the incoming players after the deal is done.
In order for the Spurs and Nets to make this deal, the Nets -- who are already at the 15-man limit -- would have to waive three of their own players first. Obviously, that's not going to happen. Doesn't neccesarily mean there is no deal for Carter in the works, but it isn't this deal.
Are you guys serious?
Brook Lopez is not a journeyman. He is a rookie and one of the Nets' best young player next to D. Harris.
Josh Boone is not a journeyman, either. He's in his second season!
Sean Williams is not better than these guys who are starting quality.
Our Spurs are the team that take sh1tty players and give them a chance to reform and shine.
You guys need to watch some games.
So trade away the most clutch shooter on the team and best combo guard this team has ever had for a pussy jump shooting always hurt belly aching asshole?
this trade if it happens.
Again, you fail to answer why Williams has played only ~190 minutes this season. I know why, I just want to see if you do.
im very serious. If the Nets want us to take Carter and his contract away....and if they want to take Mason and Hill from us, they better give us some youth in return.....Lopez. Otherwise, they can take this proposed trade, shine it up real nice, turn that som sideways, and stick it straight up their rooty poo candy asses.
Listen, you senile old man, I did not say that quote, so don't attribute it to me.
Secondly, I already answered you... twice.
The big men playing ahead of Sean Williams are all better than he is.
That said, I think Williams could help the Spurs. He needs the Pop boot camp and a change of scenery.
You listed Brook Williams and Josh Boone as journeymen.
How do I argue with you if you're that off base?
P.S.
Vince Carter is clutch.
Uh hes been in the league about 3 or 4 years....
carter is clutch, people:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...rter+game+winn
If you follow the NBA at large, then do your research.
Yeah his teams led by him have won soooo much.
I say DO IT!!!...at least, if carter seems willing to work within the system (but I think he will..as much as a lot of people hate him...I think its unfair to him)
I think right now carter is an upgrade over mason (as much as I like him)...similar clutch (yeah, I have the nerv to say that after mason won 3 or 4 games for us with his clutchness) and just a player which will force opposing teams to change their gameplan (which is tough if you also have to do it with tony, manu and timmy)
to include hill is tough, but take a look what pop does to him lately...its not like he is the guy who will win games for us this year...and I could care less about our youth...when timmy goes we need to do a fill rebuilding anyway and I'd rather trade hill now then later (when we are not competing)
additionally: carters defense is underated...I wont say, he is great, but at least as good as mason is.
only problem is, that it would still leave us very thin up front (I'm not high on the williams-idea)...but with one more rosterspot, we may just pick up another guy to at least have quan y
parker/vaughn (lol..he would be back)
carter/manu/fin
bowen/manu/fin
bonner/kurt
duncan/oberto
+ hairstone
...PO-rotation:
parker/manu
carter/manu
bowen/finley
kurt/bonner
duncan/kurt
...sonds great for me, if we get another big!
Trading a very good but limited three point specialist and a talented but raw rookie pg for an elite, All-Star caliber scorer on the wing who is one of the clutchest players in the league (82games.com)!?!?
well, if the spurs really want to have a chance to win it all the next two years they should do it
BTW, are there really so many uneducated and uninformed fans out there!?!?!
CARTER IS NOT INJURY PRONE..........since he was traded to the NETS he missed only 12 games, less than Kobe, pierce etc........
cheers
We're trading away most of our bench (which may not be that great to begin with) for only VC?
I'd rather keep Hill or Mason but not lose both.
I don't care for Oberto, and it'd be nice for Bowen to get waived and come back to SA.
I doubt the Spurs get Carter especially considering NJ would have to waive three of their own players.
lol...even while not beeing the dunking mashine of early days anymore...he probably would make more dunks than all the other spurs together
and I would pay to see him dunk on kendrick perkins in a finals matchup!
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