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    And I know this because Garnett, Howard, Bynum and Chandler were all top 5 picks. O'Neal isn't really comparable to Hickson. They aren't similar players.

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    the chance of this deal happening is 85 percent because the suns have poor management problems, it not the GM its the owner
    I think it has a 45% chance at this point, and it will happen at the deadline. It hasn't "already been agreed to", that much I'm sure of.

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    And I actually heard a rumor even worse for Cleveland and better for the Suns that involves these players along with Richardson and a few more Cleveland scrubs.

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    The word "reliable" gets tossed around quite a bit around this time.

    Not saying there's no way it goes down, but I find it pretty unlikely.
    Yeah cuz the Pistons have a better shot dont they? Sheed/Amir isnt any better of an offer.

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    Yeah cuz the Pistons have a better shot dont they? Sheed/Amir isnt any better of an offer.
    Um....yeah it is.

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    Um.....no it isnt.

    Sheed is an expiring contract just like Wally.

    Amir hasnt proven other than being foul proned.

    In terms of raw talent and expiring contracts, it's the same.

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    Yeah cuz the Pistons have a better shot dont they? Sheed/Amir isnt any better of an offer.
    It's not a much better offer, but slightly better depending on what Kerr and the Suns are looking for.

    Rasheed is expiring, but if Kerr still wants to maintain the ability to challenge in the west somehow, Rasheed can help them right now. He complements Shaq much better than Amare does because Rasheed stays out on the perimeter and doesn't clash with Shaq's offense in the paint, and Rasheed plays defense.

    Having Rasheed there actually allows them to match up against a team like the Lakers much better than they can now.

    Now, is it a way better deal than what Cleveland has to offer? It's arguable. I think it is because of what Rasheed could possibly do for them this year. Beyond that, they both offer cap space and a young big man with potential. Toss up which young player will be better down the road. I can't and won't speak on that.

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    Um.....no it isnt.

    Sheed is an expiring contract just like Wally.

    Amir hasnt proven other than being foul proned.

    In terms of raw talent and expiring contracts, it's the same.
    So you're saying Sheed isn't any better than Wally? You're a in idiot if you believe that. Amir=Hickson, true, but a Sheed/Amir deal is significantly better because Rasheed is significantly better than Wally Zoolander.

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    where does he rank on your scouting big board? It sounds like you labor over your scouting reports night and day and have devolved a great impression on JJ.
    It was really impressive how Hickson never boxed out Lamar Odom once, and let him take a all over the Cavs in that 3rd quarter.

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    spursreport with his usual ing re ed comments

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    LMAO, not everyone acts like Amare is good after badmouthing him for so long... Hope this is bunk though, almost as bad as the gasol trade, but I'd take wally and a bar of soap over whoever the lakers traded for gasol.

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    So you're saying Sheed isn't any better than Wally? You're a in idiot if you believe that. Amir=Hickson, true, but a Sheed/Amir deal is significantly better because Rasheed is significantly better than Wally Zoolander.
    You are a ing idiot for not reading what my post said. IN TERMS OF AN EXPIRING CONTRACT you dumb piece of .

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    spursreport with his usual ing re ed comments
    Stretch with his usual obsession over me while having Mono's in his mouth.

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    And I know this because Garnett, Howard, Bynum and Chandler were all top 5 picks. O'Neal isn't really comparable to Hickson. They aren't similar players.
    I think it was legler that said on draft night when the cavs drafted jj that if he had one more year in school he would be a lottery pick. So he is decent man give him a chance, go get a JJ jersey cuz he is yours

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    LOL@ spurs fans bashing a suns fan on a suns trade.

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    It was really impressive how Hickson never boxed out Lamar Odom once, and let him take a all over the Cavs in that 3rd quarter.
    I agree, solid defense on Odom, all star potential right there.

    The horrible thing is if Amare goes to Cleveland and they make the finals versus LA, I'm actually going to have to cheer for the Lakers.

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    I think it was legler that said on draft night when the cavs drafted jj that if he had one more year in school he would be a lottery pick.
    Which just shows he's playing basketball because he's naturally good at it and is in it for the money. When someone leaves college early knowing they wouldn't be a top 15 pick, it raises serious doubt about how much they care about getting better.

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    It was really impressive how Hickson never boxed out Lamar Odom once, and let him take a all over the Cavs in that 3rd quarter.
    Rookie errors, your better than that. Still has to learn how to play with the Big boys. Mike Brown tried him out there. JJ was roasted by his team-mates and coach, it will be a step in his development.

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    It's not a much better offer, but slightly better depending on what Kerr and the Suns are looking for.

    Rasheed is expiring, but if Kerr still wants to maintain the ability to challenge in the west somehow, Rasheed can help them right now. He complements Shaq much better than Amare does because Rasheed stays out on the perimeter and doesn't clash with Shaq's offense in the paint, and Rasheed plays defense.

    Having Rasheed there actually allows them to match up against a team like the Lakers much better than they can now.

    Now, is it a way better deal than what Cleveland has to offer? It's arguable. I think it is because of what Rasheed could possibly do for them this year. Beyond that, they both offer cap space and a young big man with potential. Toss up which young player will be better down the road. I can't and won't speak on that.
    Detroit could be one of those teams Amare said he wouldn't resign with.

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    You are a ing idiot for not reading what my post said. IN TERMS OF AN EXPIRING CONTRACT you dumb piece of .
    WHERE IS THAT IN THIS POST

    Yeah cuz the Pistons have a better shot dont they? Sheed/Amir isnt any better of an offer.
    you dumb piece of .

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    And I actually heard a rumor even worse for Cleveland and better for the Suns that involves these players along with Richardson and a few more Cleveland scrubs.
    There is also talk the Cavs are talking to Pheonix but not about STAT or Shaq.

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    Latest post by the source is saying the Cavs have put the offer on the table to Pheonix, but the Cavs organisation believes another team will put foward a better offer before the deadline passes.

    Ferry has tried to get a 3rd team in on the deal so Pheonix ends up with a better package. Cavs have other deals that they are willing to go to if they are unable to land Amare.

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    There is also talk the Cavs are talking to Pheonix but not about STAT or Shaq.
    1) On my previous post, I meant better for cleveland worse for the Suns, typo.

    2) J-Rich is a nice guy who cares about winning and would fit in well on the Cavs. When other players around him start playing defense, he'll start playing defense. He has the skills and commitment to be a good defender just not the guidance. He felt horrible about leaving Mason open Christmas when if you look at the play closely it wasn't even his fault.

    Cleveland would be smart to go after J-Rich and Shaq, not Amare. The Phoenix fans hate Shaq and J-Rich for no reason, and Kerr and Sarver would be more willing to trade them.

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    Shaq > Amare even at this point. Shaq showed he can still play lockdown defense in short stretches against TD last year. Of course they lost that series but Shaq still looked impressive at times. And you still have to double him or he'll get right to the rim for the dunk, making teams center their gameplan around him. I don't see why more teams aren't going after Shaq instead of Amare.

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    1) On my previous post, I meant better for cleveland worse for the Suns, typo.

    2) J-Rich is a nice guy who cares about winning and would fit in well on the Cavs. When other players around him start playing defense, he'll start playing defense. He has the skills and commitment to be a good defender just not the guidance. He felt horrible about leaving Mason open Christmas when if you look at the play closely it wasn't even his fault.

    Cleveland would be smart to go after J-Rich and Shaq, not Amare. The Phoenix fans hate Shaq and J-Rich for no reason, and Kerr and Sarver would be more willing to trade them.
    I've wanted J-Rich for a while because it looked like a realistic possiblity for the Cavs. I don't see Ferry trading for Shaq.

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