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    The latest scenario would have the Spurs sending Roger Mason, George Hill, Fabricio Oberto and Bruce Bowen to New Jersey for Carter. New Jersey would then immediately waive Oberto and Bowen, to get themselves under the 15-man roster limit.
    More than anything, I don't believe this scenario because I don't think the Spurs would go back to having JV as the backup point.

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    More than anything, I don't believe this scenario because I don't think the Spurs would go back to having JV as the backup point.
    This trade can't work without a 3rd team so perhaps that 3rd team sends us a decent back up, spurs have been rumored to be talking with the Kings...

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    More than anything, I don't believe this scenario because I don't think the Spurs would go back to having JV as the backup point.
    Couldn't Manu handle the point while TP took a breather?

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    Couldn't Manu handle the point while TP took a breather?
    No, not for 14+ minutes a game.

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    More than anything, I don't believe this scenario because I don't think the Spurs would go back to having JV as the backup point.
    For the love of God, this.

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    No, not for 14+ minutes a game.
    I know learning the system takes time, but we'd also have a quality ball-handler in Vince. ...? (ya know, while MANU takes the breather )

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    Couldn't Manu handle the point while TP took a breather?
    Yeah how did that work out last year?

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    I know learning the system takes time, but we'd also have a quality ball-handler in Vince. ...? (ya know, while MANU takes the breather )
    Vince Carter is NOT a point guard....

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    I know learning the system takes time, but we'd also have a quality ball-handler in Vince. ...? (ya know, while MANU takes the breather )
    , why not have Duncan play backup PG. He knows the system for sure.

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    I heard this same sh1t last year and was sold that Kurt Thomas was the big man who would be the equalizer against the Lakers.
    yah, but he's older and only 6'9". they need a big, roughly 6'10-11", 250 lbs, and big wing span. i'm not against vinsanity either, he might be just what they need (???), but if this is true, then hopefully they get a big guy along with this deal. cross your fingers

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    Since Tony has been in the league, it's been a struggle for the Spurs to find a decent backup PG. They finally have that in GHill and I don't think the Spurs throw that away.

    I am not saying that I'm for or against VC. I'm just saying it makes no sense to lose their depth at the point guard in the process. And I truly gotta believe that the Spurs are looking for a big more than Vince.

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    Vince Carter is NOT a point guard....
    I'm aware, but for stretches, either he or Manu could handle the rock if need be. And you can't seriously allude to Manu's performance last year in the POs as "typical".

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    , why not have Duncan play backup PG. He knows the system for sure.
    I'm merely stating that we'd have aNOTHER guy who could handle the rock.

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    I'm aware, but for stretches, either he or Manu could handle the rock if need be. And you can't seriously allude to Manu's performance last year in the POs as "typical".
    "For stretches" would be okay - two to three minutes in a crunch. But neither Manu or Vince can be the regular back up point guard, getting 16 mpg at the point while Tony rests.

    If George Hill is gone in a trade, Jacque Vaughn better be super fresh and ready to go, or the Spurs must be getting a point back in the deal.

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    yah, but he's older and only 6'9". they need a big, roughly 6'10-11", 250 lbs, and big wing span. i'm not against vinsanity either, he might be just what they need (???), but if this is true, then hopefully they get a big guy along with this deal. cross your fingers
    Problem is every team in the league needs that 6'10 250lbs player with big wing span and those that have a player like it don't want to trade them for Oberto and Vaughn.

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    , why not have Duncan play backup PG. He knows the system for sure.
    hahahaha! i've actually seen him handle the ball a couple of possessions in an all-star game about 4 or 5 years ago so we know he could do it
    nah, no he couldn't lol

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    Problem is every team in the league needs that 6'10 250lbs player with big wing span and those that have a player like it don't want to trade them for Oberto and Vaughn.
    c'mon man, let a guy wish!

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    Spurs get: Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Trent Hassell, Sean Williams
    Nets get: Amare Stoudamire, Fabricio Oberto, Matt Barnes
    Suns get: Vince Carter, Kurt Thomas

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    Spurs get: Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Trent Hassell, Sean Williams
    Nets get: Amare Stoudamire, Fabricio Oberto, Matt Barnes
    Suns get: Vince Carter, Kurt Thomas



    Wow....

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    im just having fun and seeing what trades would be allowed.

    Honestly, I was trying to give Udoka and Vaughn to NJ, cause of their expiring contracts....but they have 15 players already, so they can only receive the same number of players they give away.

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    Spurs get: Brook Lopez, Robin Lopez, Trent Hassell, Sean Williams
    Nets get: Amare Stoudamire, Fabricio Oberto, Matt Barnes
    Suns get: Vince Carter, Kurt Thomas
    This drives Pop insane and he shouts, yes and starts drowning himself in wine!!!!!

    Rod Thorn makes another awesome trade this year and says, league did not veto my trade. No need to wait for 2 years. Lets sign an extension right now!!!

    Sarver complains: Vince Carter? Get out!!! We want expirings and young talent. This ain't solve no .

    Doesn't work. Suns get royally screwed, at least they deserve a 1st round pick from Nets/ 2nd round pick from Spurs.

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    This drives Pop insane and he shouts, yes and starts drowning himself in wine!!!!!

    Rod Thorn makes another awesome trade this year and says, league did not veto my trade. No need to wait for 2 years. Lets sign an extension right now!!!

    Sarver complains: Vince Carter? Get out!!! We want expirings and young talent. This ain't solve no .

    Doesn't work. Suns get royally screwed, at least they deserve a 1st round pick from Nets/ 2nd round pick from Spurs.
    Well this is just what I could do on the trade machine.....i cant add draft picks, the rights to players drafted, or cash considerations to the thing.....or if I can, I dont know how.

    I have no problem with the Suns getting a 1st or 2nd from us and/or a 1st or 2nd from the Nets.

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