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Exactly, but if I ever see you at a game....lol
Vince Carter is not coming to the Spurs, and if he did, he wouldn't make a difference. We'd probably be worse.
Rasheed would make a difference, but it's just not going to happen. I'm amazed at how big the Carter/Rasheed trade threads have gotten. Everyone and their grandma knows that it's just not going to happen. It's like saying Kobe will leave the Lakers. Not happening. Ever.
Nothing personal against all the people posting in those threads, but you are just wasting your time.
Exactly, but if I ever see you at a game....lol
wrong believe me my friend i know alot more that you would know
It doesn't add up.
joe smith is trash if we get him im going to do this
I posted this in the monster Carter thread, but it fits here too.
Duncan weighs in on rumored Carter deal
By Jeff McDonald
Officially, Tim Duncan is not a member of the Spurs front office. But you can bet his comfort-level is taken into account when it comes to personnel moves. Gregg Popovich doesn't call his All-Star forward "The Franchise" for nothing.
So when Duncan weighed in Saturday on the whispers that the Spurs might be considering a four-player swap for Vince Carter, well, it carries some weight.
"No offense to Vince, obviously he's an excellent player," Duncan said told the Web site Hoops World during All-Star festivities in Phoenix. "We'd love to have him. But to give up most of our team to add one guy, I don't think that's the way you want to go."
Duncan, like Popovich, is big on what the Spurs call call "ins utional knowledge." That should tell you a bit about where this deal is headed.
"It's a long season and we have a lot of guys who have been here a long time and understand the way we want to play," Duncan said. "Just to insert one new piece and try to teach him in half a season the way we want to play isn't the way that we work."
Duncan can rest easy. "Half the team" for Carter can't happen.
The rumored trade, which would have sent Roger Mason Jr., George Hill, Fabricio Oberto and Bruce Bowen to New Jersey for Carter, would not have been legal under NBA rules unless the Nets waived three of their own players first. Obviously, they aren't going to do that.
Neither did Pao Gasol for a ham sandwich, but it happened...if that can happen, so can this. I don't want Vince, but Sheed would be fantastic. Don't get on us for being hopeful and excited about our team possibly making a big deal to better themselves. If you get angry about fans getting excited about their team, you're not a fan of that team. Instead of getting on us for getting excited about possibilities, why don't you try to get excited about your team. Or are you one of those guys who insists on trying to rain on everyone's parade?
Next to Duncan and Parker, Vince Carter is probably my most favorite player in the NBA. I am down, but I just don't see it happening and its a waste of time. Now, if there was some middle of the road big the spurs would be after, I could see it... I just don't see Sheed or Carter coming here for the bright spots the spurs have had this year, ie... Mason...
Sorry.
Okay,let's look at it from a Detroit GM perspective. At the end of the year Sheed will leave and Detroit will get nothing They are not going to do well in the playoffs so you try to see what you can get. He comes off the books in 2009 but the good FA's are in 2010. You need some serviceable contracts that do not affect 2010. 2009 is not a good time for cap space as you may end up over paying for marginal talent. Enter Oberto, a top notch second string level center. Also, enter Bonner the top 3 point shooter in the NBA. Enter Mahinmi and Splitter, two young bigs who could blossom. Enter the fact that no one else is offering anything and you as any good GM would try to make the move to trade Wallace.
I don't get how everyone is saying they are clearing the bench? They replace a starter with a more talented starter and lose a back-up point gaurd. Bowen and Oberto come back and are only left with a back-up point gaurd problem.
if the package la sent to memphis was a ham sandwich, then what we are offering up equates to a single slice of stale bread...
Wow.
What a b@llsy take.
"The Spurs front office will not trade for a star."
Riveting stuff, SpursDynasty.
What else you got, Nostradamus?
That slice of bread almost beat a healthy Nuggets team!!I'll take a slice of that any day.
Anythings possible.
Agreed..but if Detroit is willing to part with Rasheed, knowing he's going to be leaving next year anyway, why not get what you can for him, and at the same time, reward him for all he's done for the team by sending him to a team he wants to go, especially since SA is not only not in their division, but not even in their conference?
The thing that stuns me is the anti-trade rationale of NOT trading your bench for one star.
That's exactly what you want to do.
The Spurs bench is Manu Ginobili.
The rest of them are castoffs or never weres.
Every couple years, the Spurs piece together a bench from spare parts.
Yet we have not brought in a star complement outside of the draft in 20 years.
But homers here prefer to keep role players instead of adding a star to Duncan's twilight years.
You people make me drink.
Wait wait..so you're saying a dead eye shooter, a decent big, a potentially great point guard, and one of the best perimeter defensive players in the game (even though he'd probably be waived) is stale bread compared to Kwame Brown and Javaris Freaking Crittenton? You're kidding, right?
ChurchThat slice of bread almost beat a healthy Nuggets team!!
Exactly...that's all I'm tryin to say..and dude keeps rainin on everyone's parade.
You are persistent with this.wrong believe me my friend i know alot more that you would know
expiring contracts > non-expiring contracts
marc gasol >= mason
3 1st round pick > hill
This isn't happening because it's not enough for Carter.
I would offer nets Josh Howard and gerald green for VC, and trade stack/fillers for Kaman, but I'm not the GM of our team who is unarguably an idiot.
Carter for Josh Howard has been floated out there. That's better than the Spurs deal, at least.
We already have 3 All Star players who dominate the ball.
Mason is a shoe in for this system.
Rasheed Wallace puts this team over. Carter does not. Hes just another ball dominator (Who is very good) that we dont NEED right now.
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