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while i dont really disagree with your point, are you seriously using league awards as a standard of measure? duncan has 0 DPOY and shaq only has 1 MVP, while nash has 2. not the best argument.
Yeah, just like they hand out Gold Gloves to play the best defense at their position.
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Rasheed Wallace has no defensive awards to his name. Camby has multiple. Who would you rather have patrolling the paint?
while i dont really disagree with your point, are you seriously using league awards as a standard of measure? duncan has 0 DPOY and shaq only has 1 MVP, while nash has 2. not the best argument.
Read what I wrote and if you don't agree, prove me wrong. I posted Camby's stats and accolades and rumored availability, Rougue.
The only thing that needs fixing is you, so we can ensure the bloodline ends with you, donkey.
You, Ghost Writer, need to realize that rudimentary statistics are a piss poor way to measure a player's defensive ability.
Well, ignore the Defensive Player of the Year Award and just take Y2J's word for it that Marcus Camby can't defend and addresses none of the Spurs' needs.
All I can supply you with is widely accepted NBA truths with stats, articles and awards to back it up.
Stop wasting my time.
cambys dpoy? his award = tim duncans
he was fukn exposed in 07 when he won it, tim duncan destroyed the fool in the first round
Nah.
I watch the games, Y2J.
I thought you were smart.
You honestly think Marcus Camby is a poor defender?
Did you just hit the crack pipe between the Carter threads and this one?
again, i dont disagree. while i do hold the position that hes an overrated defender (i dont think hes been a DPOY caliber player recently), id still rate him as a good defender, great rebounder, and good shot blocker (only because he does leave his man far too often). and id welcome a trade for camby. no need to go all PMS...
Let me make it simple.
Do the Spurs need a PF/C?
Do they need blocks?
Do they need a good team defender?
Do they need boards, particularly offensive rebounds?
Do the Spurs prefer veterans?
Could they trade bench depth for a $8-10 million salary that expires next (not this) summer?
Did you look at Camby's career numbers?
Do you follow the NBA at large?
The answer to all these questions is "yes."
I know Camby is a liability on both ends of the floor, whose only redeeming quality is that he can grab rebounds.
if we can get him for Horry, Oberto, Bowen(who would come back)..or whatever matches..then I'd do it..
I'm not sure if he's worth giving up on Hill or Mason though, I'd have to think about it..
People are overlooking the fact that Camby has never played alongside the quality of low post defender as Duncan.
Camby could thrive as a "free safety" of sorts in the Spurs team defense.
Camby could give Pau Gasol fvcking fits.
Please, people, enough of the b1tchy little nitpicking complaints.
You'd pass on Jesus H. Christ to the Spurs for Jaques Vaughn.
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You're fvcking re ed.
Camby is not a liability on the defensive end and he gets garbage points on offense.
Camby also is always among the league leaders in blocked shots.
He fits exactly what the Spurs need.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Yes, leaving your man wide friggin open so you can block a contested shot makes you a defensive liability.
You're fvcking re ed.
Camby is not a liability on the defensive end and he gets garbage points on offense.
Camby also is always among the league leaders in blocked shots.
He fits exactly what the Spurs need.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Corny.
And you are incorrect.
For the record, 2YiZ asserts that Marcus Camby is a liability on the defensive and and doesn't do anything but rebound.
Congrats!
You just surpassed EricB and exstatic for most fvcked up post of the day.
Take a bath with a toaster.
Please.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Your inferiority/superiority complex is hilarious.
Visit a shrink.
Please.
Marcus Camby was a four-time member of the All-Defense first or second team. In 2006-07, he was the defensive player of the year. In seven of his 12 seasons, he averaged double-digit rebounds. In four seasons, he led the league in blocked shots.
2YiZ says Marcus Camby is a bad defender and doesn't do anything but rebound and would not address any of the Spurs needs.
The defense rests, your honor.
haven't you noticed his avatar? his own mouth is filled with something that none of us wants to mention. he had to steal words from others, please forgive him.
Yeah, and Jeter has won the SS Gold Glove multiple times.
I have no idea where you're going with this.
That much is obvious.
You don't think Camby does anything but rebound and would not address the Spurs needs and that he can't defend.
It's your assertion against my stats, articles, awards and general NBA knowledge.
Don't dig a deeper hole. We all can read this thread and see that you believe Camby would hurt the Spurs on defense.
Do you think Ray Allen is a bad shooter, too?
You are trying to use stats and awards to prove someone is a good defender. Your claims are baseless, egregious, and stupid.
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