The Player the Spurs Should Trade For

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[DynastyBuilder]

Another Camby thread just what I was hoping for today

[2YiZ]

So if the Spurs are ahead of the Lakers by one point in Game 7 of the WC Finals with 1 second left in the game and Kobe drives to the basket for a layup or dunk only to get his shot cleanly 'blocked' by Marcus Camby (if he were a Spur) then a block doesn't prove ? Or the same scenerio in the NBA Finals between the Spurs and Celtics and Tim or Marcus 'blocks' the final shot attempt by KG, which had it not been blocked and the shot made, the Celtics would be repeat Champions, then the 'block' doesn't mean ? If the Nets coaching staff believes that then no wonder the Nets have never won an NBA Championship. When was the last time any NBA team won the championship by being a purely offensive team and not a defensive minded team?

New scenario. Game 7 of the NBA Finals

Rajon Rondo is driving to the hoop, with Manu covering him. 4 seconds left. Manu has Rondo completely covered, and as Rondo fakes a shot, Camby comes across to help, leaving Kendrick Perkins open right under the basket, looking for the block. Rondo dishesto Perkins, and he slams it home. Game over.

Well, that was fun.

For god's sake, there is a difference between defense and blocks.

[Mr Bones]

With that type of at ude, the terrorists win.

It's a fight to the death, you hippie.

Ah-ha, but maybe I am actually the terrorist and I've lulled you into complacency by tricking you into thinking I'm a hippie.

Either way, this vid is interesting as it critiques Camby's D and compares it (unfavorably) to that of Nene. Very interesting. Check it out.

http://www.pickaxeandroll.com/2008/9...ng-report-marc

[Dramon]

So if the Spurs are ahead of the Lakers by one point in Game 7 of the WC Finals with 1 second left in the game and Kobe drives to the basket for a layup or dunk only to draw the foul and get two shots to put the game away because Camby decided it would be a good idea to get himself up in the air for the block. (if he were a Spur) Or the same scenerio in the NBA Finals between the Spurs and Celtics and Tim or Marcus 'blocks' the final shot attempt by KG, which had it not been blocked and the shot made, the Celtics would be repeat Champions, then the 'block' doesn't mean ? If the Nets coaching staff believes that then no wonder the Nets have never won an NBA Championship. When was the last time any NBA team won the championship by being a purely offensive team and not a defensive minded team?

I fixed your scenario. Blocks matter, but to go for the block generally isn't smart, as not only can you no longer play help defense when you're in the air...a smart offensive player knows how to draw the foul and any smart defensive player knows this too. Theres a pretty big difference between Tim Duncan's blocks and Marcus Camby's (Josh Smith as well) blocks. Tim Duncan barely leaves the ground on his blocks allowing him to stay in a semi decent defensive position and Marcus Camby goes flying through the rafters everytime someone looks like theyre gonna shoot.

[Mr Bones]

I fixed your scenario. Blocks matter, but to go for the block generally isn't smart, as not only can you no longer play help defense when you're in the air...a smart offensive player knows how to draw the foul and any smart defensive player knows this too. Theres a pretty big difference between Tim Duncan's blocks and Marcus Camby's (Josh Smith as well) blocks. Tim Duncan barely leaves the ground on his blocks allowing him to stay in a semi decent defensive position and Marcus Camby goes flying through the rafters everytime someone looks like theyre gonna shoot.

I agree that Duncan is the overall better defender, but Camby is not a dumb shotblocker. Take a look at this link: http://www.nba.com/statistics/player...DD=All%20Teams

Camby leads the league in block/foul ratio, and has more blocks and fewer fouls than Duncan. Granted, Duncan doesn't get caught leaving his guy as much as Camby, but Camby's decision making regarding block attempts is still among the best in the league.

[Muser]

Camby would be awesome IMO.

Everyone saying that Camby's D is a liability, well isn't Bonner/Thomas and Oberto's D worse?

[DynastyBuilder]

Cavs are in the "we want Camby or Amare" mind frame as well - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...amare-or-camby

[SouthTexasRancher]

New scenario. Game 7 of the NBA Finals

Rajon Rondo is driving to the hoop, with Manu covering him. 4 seconds left. Manu has Rondo completely covered, and as Rondo fakes a shot, Camby comes across to help, leaving Kendrick Perkins open right under the basket, looking for the block. Rondo dishesto Perkins, and he slams it home. Game over.

Well, that was fun.

For god's sake, there is a difference between defense and blocks.

Damn ZYiZ, you people in New Jersey need to get an edjuuumacation so you can learn to read.

Now re-read my post again or better yet have someone who can read, read it to you!!! So you won't have to go back and find it here it is...............

"So if the Spurs are ahead of the Lakers by one point in Game 7 of the WC Finals with 1 second left in the game and Kobe drives to the basket for a layup or dunk only to get his shot cleanly 'blocked' by Marcus Camby (if he were a Spur) then a block doesn't prove ?Or the same scenerio in the NBA Finals between the Spurs and Celtics and Tim or Marcus 'blocks' the final shot attempt by KG, which had it not been blocked and the shot made, the Celtics would be repeat Champions, then the 'block' doesn't mean ? If the Nets coaching staff believes that then no wonder the Nets have never won an NBA Championship. When was the last time any NBA team won the championship by being a purely offensive team and not a defensive minded team?"

I underlined the 'key' word {cleanly} for you to help you out.......look up the word 'cleanly'! My scenario was showing a 'CLEAN' block...thus NO passing and NO fouling.

Blocks do matter....but apparently ONLY to teams who win NBA Championships and their fans!!! Teams like the NJ Nets and Phoney Suns belong in the D-League. There they can and will learn just how important 'blocks' are in the game of basketball. We've had a couple of excellent blockers you may have heard of...Timmy Duncan and The Admiral, MR. Robinson, who did NOT like opponents coming into his neighborhood. In Mr. Robinson's own words, "get that junk outta here"!

Anyway, maybe one day you will get to see an NBA game. I hope you do, especially in person. You will then get to witness what a crucial block means.

[SouthTexasRancher]

I fixed your scenario. Blocks matter, but to go for the block generally isn't smart, as not only can you no longer play help defense when you're in the air...a smart offensive player knows how to draw the foul and any smart defensive player knows this too. Theres a pretty big difference between Tim Duncan's blocks and Marcus Camby's (Josh Smith as well) blocks. Tim Duncan barely leaves the ground on his blocks allowing him to stay in a semi decent defensive position and Marcus Camby goes flying through the rafters everytime someone looks like theyre gonna shoot.

NO, you did NOT fix my scenario. I'll say the same thing to you...Learn How To Read!!! My scenario as originally posted stands and I rest my case!

[meestahmeestah]

Anyway, maybe one day you will get to see an NBA game. I hope you do, especially in person. You will then get to witness what a crucial block means.

Speaking as someone who's seen a lot of NBA games in person, I've seen the scenario many, many times. 2Yiz was dead on.

How do I know? I live in Denver and saw Marcus Camby get eaten up on defense because he couldn't stand staying around the paint. It didn't help that he had Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson and JR Smith all going for the steal every single time and biting for every jab-step and head-fake, of course. A couple of times a game, Camby would swat one into the 3rd row. Five or six times a game someone would dink a little bounce pass into the man Camby had left, and that guy would get a layup or a dunk.

If you expect Camby to be any sort of force in the paint on offense...well, if you believe that I've got a Tau Ceramica guaranteed contract with no buyout for you. One of the local talk show hosts (Oren from Denver, if you're a Jungle listener) likened Camby's jumper to an old, creaky fire truck ladder slowly going up. Camby got a lot of rebounds here in Denver and now with the Clips because bad teams shoot lazy jumpers. Lazy jumpers mean long rebounds, which is perfect for the 6'10" wiry guy who has no appe e for the paint.

Finally, I wish you all could have seen Tim stare through Camby when David Stern was in town that 1st round game to hand the DPOY trophy to Camby. While the rest of the Spurs kind of milled around and stretched/jogged to warm up, Tim stared at Camby the whole time. You know that stare I'm talking about too. The DPOY ceremony was happening between my seat and the Spurs, who were out on the floor around half court, so I had a perfect view of the whole thing. (I was around 10 rows behind the basket on the Nuggets' baseline) Bruce tried to tell Tim something, but Tim shook him off and went on to abuse Camby and the rest of the Nuggets that game.

Count me as a "pass" on Camby.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Speaking as someone who's seen a lot of NBA games in person, I've seen the scenario many, many times. 2Yiz was dead on.

How do I know? I live in Denver and saw Marcus Camby get eaten up on defense because he couldn't stand staying around the paint. It didn't help that he had Carmelo Anthony, Allen Iverson and JR Smith all going for the steal every single time and biting for every jab-step and head-fake, of course. A couple of times a game, Camby would swat one into the 3rd row. Five or six times a game someone would dink a little bounce pass into the man Camby had left, and that guy would get a layup or a dunk.

If you expect Camby to be any sort of force in the paint on offense...well, if you believe that I've got a Tau Ceramica guaranteed contract with no buyout for you. One of the local talk show hosts (Oren from Denver, if you're a Jungle listener) likened Camby's jumper to an old, creaky fire truck ladder slowly going up. Camby got a lot of rebounds here in Denver and now with the Clips because bad teams shoot lazy jumpers. Lazy jumpers mean long rebounds, which is perfect for the 6'10" wiry guy who has no appe e for the paint.

Finally, I wish you all could have seen Tim stare through Camby when David Stern was in town that 1st round game to hand the DPOY trophy to Camby. While the rest of the Spurs kind of milled around and stretched/jogged to warm up, Tim stared at Camby the whole time. You know that stare I'm talking about too. The DPOY ceremony was happening between my seat and the Spurs, who were out on the floor around half court, so I had a perfect view of the whole thing. (I was around 10 rows behind the basket on the Nuggets' baseline) Bruce tried to tell Tim something, but Tim shook him off and went on to abuse Camby and the rest of the Nuggets that game.

Count me as a "pass" on Camby.

This is starting to get funny. The reading level around America just keeps dropping lower and lower.

I'm going to try this one more time for those who canNOT read the English language.

My post was about a

'CLEAN' Block!!!

Hopefully the so-called stimulus package will provide schooling for some here!

And btw kid...I've been a Spurs season ticket holder for 20 years and I could care less whether you are a pass or not on Camby!

[Mr Bones]

Camby got a lot of rebounds here in Denver and now with the Clips because bad teams shoot lazy jumpers. Lazy jumpers mean long rebounds, which is perfect for the 6'10" wiry guy who has no appe e for the paint.

But Camby is also tied for the league lead in defensive rebounds, which I think is also related to jump shots-- the jump shots that opposing players take because they are intimidated by his shotblocking prowess. I don't think Camby is Bill Russell or Tim Duncan defensively, but he's no scrub either.

[Spur-Addict]

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I'd grab Camby in a second, he'd be fantastic in our system and next to Tim, I'm just not sure that we have anything to get him with.

[raspsa]

Its not just the blocks he makes but the other plays where he forces the opponent to change his shot.

[Chieflion]

Camby's wingspan, leaping ability, standing reach, is a gift itself on the defensive end.