Is Shaq kissing too much a$$

[Pelicans78]

Kareem never fussed like Kobe did. Kobe always wanted to be the guy and once said Shaq's job is to rebound and defend. Kobe is nothing like Kareem. Kobe has been an asshole for most of his career which is why he will never be revered like Jordan or even Lebron.

[SenorSpur]

I find it ironic that Shaq has left a trail of "scored earth" everytime he's left a team. He'll do the same to the Suns, if he ever gets out. Now he wants to go back to the team that he scorched first? Give me a break.

[SenorSpur]

Then why is Shaq beggin to come back to play with someone as horrible as Kobe? Magic and Kareem had their issues, but Magic was big enough to take back seat to Kareem.

And come on. After seeing what happened in the Olympics and twice this season, Lebron is not even in the same stratosphere as Kobe and Jordan. Get a clue man.

Hmmm. Since I don't follow the Fakers, I've never heard that before. I'm not surprised though. Out of curiousity, what issues did Magic and Kareem have with one another.

[Pelicans78]

Then why is Shaq beggin to come back to play with someone as horrible as Kobe? Magic and Kareem had their issues, but Magic was big enough to take back seat to Kareem.

And come on. After seeing what happened in the Olympics and twice this season, Lebron is not even in the same stratosphere as Kobe and Jordan. Get a clue man.

Kareem and Magic never really had issues. How come Phil criticized Kobe in his book? Everyone knew Kobe had the issues. He wanted to be like Jordan and wanted to carry a franchise on his back. Shaq was in his way. He wanted to be the man and failed miserably after Shaq left. Before the Gasol robbery, they were destined to be a 3rd-5th seed, even with Bynum healthy.

I'm not talking about skills. Kobe isn't liked as well as Jordan was or as Lebron is now. He can never undue his reputation as being selfish or with his arrest a few years ago. He will be recognized as a great player, but won't have the iconic status as Jordan, mainly because he's been an asshole most of his career and people don't like assholes.

[SenorSpur]

Going all the way back to him not getting along with Chris Jackson at LSU.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised about that either. That's why I call him the "BIG INSECURE". He can't get along with anyone who has as much spotlight or pub as he has. Just like when he manufactured a feud with D-Rob, while he was in high school! He claimed that D-Rob turned him down for an autograph. Which, not surprisingly, turned out to be a big lie. If anyone knows anything about Robinson, it's that he's more of the most engaging athletes/people you'll ever meet.

[Pelicans78]

Hmmm. Since I don't follow the Fakers, I've never heard that before. I'm not surprised though. Out of curiousity, what issues did Magic and Kareem have with one another.

None, he's just making it up so it will make Kobe less of an asshole.

[hater]

Magic's rookie season he did not like the flow and tempo of the team, which was run by Paul Westhead. Magic wanted to run and gun, and Kareem who was in his 30's at the time wanted to play a slow paced game. After they won the le in 1980, Magic threatened to retire if Westhead wasnt fired. Guess who was fired?

Magic eventually got his showtime era but he understood that Kareem was the go to man, which is why you always heard Magic refer to Kareem as captain. Magic was the showman, and Kareem was the steady go to guy you can count on during clutch situations. Their relationship was much similar to Kobe's and Shaq's, except Kobe was the more younger and more maturer. Kareem has somewhat of a smug at ude if you will. He'd much rather have his nose in a book than have it between some chics legs like Magic. However you want to look at it they were polar opposites, but they made it work.

People give Magic a pass because he won, but Magic ran two coaches out of town... Westhead and Riley. This is not a knock on Magic, but Im just pointing out it wasnt all peaches and cream on that team.

Kobe was not only the best player, but the hardest woker on the Lakers. Notice how his career took off after Shaq left? All Kobe cared about was winning, and he felt like if he had an in-shape Shaq they would never lose. Kobe once said it was a time when he would come to practice and no one would even speak to him. Shaq had caused a division on the team to the point where players chose which side they were on. Horry left because of this. Lets not forget how Van Exel was shipped out because of Shaq.

Not to mention all of the lame players that Shaq demanded be brought to the team to please Shaq. Dennis Scott, J.R. Reid, Samaki Walker, and a few others.

Kareem and Magic eventually set aside their personalities to own a decade. Kobe and Shaq let their personalities destroy a dynasty. Kobe never wanted to leave LA, he just wanted to get away from Shaq and PJ. Buss made the right decision.

If Kobe was such a horrible guy, why would PJ and Shaq come back to play with him? At this point, the Lakers dont need Shaq to come in and disrupt the flow of things.

yeah, that pretty much sums up how things went in LA. Kobe is completely innocent in the whole situation

[TheMACHINE]

yeah, that pretty much sums up how things went in LA. Kobe is completely innocent in the whole situation

he' s not completely innocent, but why would the Lakers want Shaq back anyways.

[SenorSpur]

Magic's rookie season he did not like the flow and tempo of the team, which was run by Paul Westhead. Magic wanted to run and gun, and Kareem who was in his 30's at the time wanted to play a slow paced game. After they won the le in 1980, Magic threatened to retire if Westhead wasnt fired. Guess who was fired? ..

Very similar cir stances.

People give Magic a pass because he won, but Magic ran two coaches out of town... Westhead and Riley. This is not a knock on Magic, but Im just pointing out it wasnt all peaches and cream on that team..

Didn't know Magic ran out Riley. I thought they were tight to the end. I know they're still tight today. What the happened there?

Kobe was not only the best player, but the hardest woker on the Lakers. Notice how his career took off after Shaq left? All Kobe cared about was winning, and he felt like if he had an in-shape Shaq they would never lose. Kobe once said it was a time when he would come to practice and no one would even speak to him. Shaq had caused a division on the team to the point where players chose which side they were on. Horry left because of this. Lets not forget how Van Exel was shipped out because of Shaq.

I thought Horry left because he was being scapegoated for the poor year that he had. What kind of beef could Shaq have possibly had with Nick the Quick?

Not to mention all of the lame players that Shaq demanded be brought to the team to please Shaq. Dennis Scott, J.R. Reid, Samaki Walker, and a few others.

Don't forget Brian Shaw. I do remember he loudly requested the Fakers sign him from their days in Orlando.

[SenorSpur]

Shaq feels threatened by anyone who can threaten his popularity. Chris Jackson was hailed at LSU and the NCAA when he and Shaq played, but they didnt get along and was stomped by GA Tech in the tournament.

When Shaq was in his second season with the Magic, the team wanted to draft Chris Webber, but Shaq demanded they bring Penny in. Webber was the talk of the town coming out of college and would have stolen the spotlight from Shaq. Turns out Penny turned into a star, and Shaq turned on him.

Shaq leaves Orlando and comes to LA and was treated like a God. Jerry West brings in Kobe to build a dynasty, and as soon as Kobe starts to grow and get popular, Shaq starts saying LA was his team. Notice how you have never heard of such bull with any other two stars... only Shaq.

David Robinson was probably one of the more mild mannered, respectable guys in the hisotry of the league, and yet Shaq had to make up a false dislike for D-Rob just to compete against him. Shaq would have loved to diss Duncan but Duncan owned his ass in many of games, just like Hakeem, so Shaq is forced to respect those guys.

Shaq has some serious character flaws. He buys friendships as he goes. He reminds me of a pretty woman thats praise much, but as soon as she gets in the room with other pretty women, she disrupts the atmosphere to get all the attention. Some of you know what Im talking about.

It's amazing how Shaq gets such a media pass simply because he's quick with a quote or a comment or that he has 147 nicknames for himself. I'm not saying Kobe is without blood on his hands either, but it's very easy to make him the lone bad guy.

[YellowFever]

yeah, that pretty much sums up how things went in LA. Kobe is completely innocent in the whole situation

That is pretty much the way things went on between Shaq and Kobe.

Why the rolling of the eyes?

Do you have a different persepctive of how things went?

We'd love to hear about it.

[scanry]

Magic was pissed at Riley for his two-a-day practices, and when he and Byron Scott both pulled hamstrings during the Lakers threepeat run against the Pistons, tempers had boiled over. Riley was considered the best coach in the league with the best team in the league, and he bolts because he felt he had lost the respect of his team. Cooper confirmed this in an interview once when he said, "Magic was the coach of the team, we listened to Magic. If Riley drew up a play, Magic would scratch that play and make his own." This was a response that Coop gave while someone was praising Riley for the showtime era.

Horry once said in LA that he couldnt take it in LA with all the egos, and guys fighting over money. Shaq was the only one fighting over money.

Nick was quoted as chanting while on the bench "Cancun here I come" while the Lakers were getting knocked out of the playoffs against Utah. Shaq publicly demanded Nick be traded, and he was...

Wow...

BTW keep em coming. I'm loving your hard drive stories. Have any more??

[scanry]

That is pretty much the way things went on between Shaq and Kobe.

Why the rolling of the eyes?

Do you have a different persepctive of how things went?

We'd love to hear about it.

Contribute with a story you mofo...

Who cares about what that guy thinks anyway. He has Kobe on rape alert lock, so might as well ignore his comments.

BTW keep em comin lakarluva...

[2Cleva]

You know that look a guy has when he had a great relationship with a girl but now he can't stand the .

That's the look Kobe has everytime he has to be with Shaq.

Shaq's not going back to LA.

[scanry]

You are right. Americans love stupic, so the media feeds them their share. Like I said, Shaq has some serious character flaws. Why would he even mention Kareem's and Ewing's name in his Kobe How My Ass Taste vid. Its jealousy. Shaq also admited that he didnt like Alonzo before they played on the same team in Miami. Alonzo's response was, "you not suppose to like the oposing players."

I would love to see the Lakers go on and win another le while Shaq is still playing, because his ego was so big he thought the team would never recover from him demanding to be traded. Why would he want to come back to an organization he called cut throat anyway.

People may think I dislike Shaq, but Im just loyal to my Lakers. Shaq has no loyalty, Kobe either, but atleast Kobe stuck with the team when things were horrible.

I mean, imagine Ducan jealous of Parker for winning a finals MVP. Duncan is going down as the greatest power foward in the history of the game, but he lets his teammates shine, and you can tell he wants them to get recognition.

I don't think Duncan cares about recognition. I recall him saying recently that he is proud of the fact that Manu & Tony developed and it will only help him in his twilight years.

I think every superstar has an ego, but it always seemed that Shaq had the biggest. He is the most insecure BB player i've ever seen.

[scanry]

You know that look a guy has when he had a great relationship with a girl but now he can't stand the .

That's the look Kobe has everytime he has to be with Shaq.

Shaq's not going back to LA.

I don't think they ever were that close even during that 3-peat.

I'm glad that we had a player like Robinson rather than a Shaq when Duncan was drafted.

[YellowFever]

I don't think Duncan cares about recognition. I recall him saying recently that he is proud of the fact that Manu & Tony developed and it will only help him in his twilight years.

I think every superstar has an ego, but it always seemed that Shaq had the biggest. He is the most insecure BB player i've ever seen.

You guys might laugh all you want at this statement but if shaq had anywhere near the mental makeup of Duncan, the Lakers might be working on their 5th or 6th championship this decade right now.

[RsxPiimp]

Kareem never fussed like Kobe did. Kobe always wanted to be the guy and once said Shaq's job is to rebound and defend. Kobe is nothing like Kareem. Kobe has been an asshole for most of his career which is why he will never be revered like Jordan or even Lebron.

mike is the biggest asshole of his generation

[scanry]

You guys might laugh all you want at this statement but if shaq had anywhere near the mental makeup of Duncan, the Lakers might be working on their 5th or 6th championship this decade right now.

Duncan still beat you guys with a bunch of scrubs in 2003. BTW that 2004 series was hard to watch as our sharp shooters were clanking iron after iron (thanks Hedo).

I don't think you would've beaten us in 2005. We were on a mission and we had better players than the year before. We also had size.

[scanry]

I dont think Kobe ever disliked Shaq as a person. Shaq is hard to hate. I just think Shaq creates an environment that revolves everything around himself, and Kobe wasnt willing to play along, which caused the rift in their relationship.

Kobe has an opt out coming up. I have a hard time seeing Buss bringing in Shaq knowing Kobe could bolt. It would all come down to Kobe's approval, which is ironic...

You think PHX is dumb enough to buyout Shaq after this season????

BTW i thought NBA players can longer be on a max contract after the age of 36.

[SenorSpur]

You can even go back to this rap chic that Shaq was ing in Atlanta. She cuts the pussy off, and Shaq threatens her career... lol. That guy behaves like hes 12, and on meds.

Wow! Riveting stuff. Can you divulge who said rap chick was?

[SenorSpur]

Shaq does indeed have his personality flaws. For one, he's very childish and immature - even though he's 36. His lame comedic actions indicate that he has a cartoon mind, which endear him to parents, children and the media. He tries too hard to be funny and it comes off forced - thereby making him look like a buffon. That poorly delivered rap, last year, was the absolute end. The mere fact that he would stoop to such an act shows just how petty and immature he is. This from a supposed role model, father and veteran NBA great, who supposedly prides himself on having benefited from his father military discipline Can anyone imagine Erving, Jabbar, Robinson, Bird, Jordan or Magic ever stooping to such an act at the end of their careers - or at all?

Secondly, his false bravado is a very transparent attempt to hide his insecurities. Which probably explains why he's never gotten along with any other great player he's played with. It just doesn't make sense that he has had beefs with Chris Jackson, Penny Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, et all. The old adage comes to mind that "if it stinks everywhere you go, maybe it's you."

I've noticed he seems very preoccupied with his legacy nowadays. He wants to have his jersey retired at very stop he's been. However, when asked about the subject of his legacy, he states, "I try not to think about it". Then in the next breath, he claims "I thought a lot about it heading into this year. Which jersey I would go in the Hall with?" Huh? Which one is it, Big Cactus?

I'll give his greedy ass credit for one thing - once he got that HUGE contract with the Fakers in '96, he was smart to keep demanding extensions. This ensured he never had to take a pay cut. Which is why you've got a 36 year-old, past-his-prime center,. hoarding up salary cap space by making an ungodly 20mil per annum. Yet giving only minimum effort at times and not being able to play B2B games.

[SpursDynasty]

Shaq is losing his edge for being too nice. Giving props to David Robinson?

[Rogue]

I think our mavs should offer suns dampier and stack for him.

[cobbler]

Shaq NEVER said Wade was better than Kobe. Shaq said Wade was the best teammate he's ever had. Kobe certainly isn't a model teammate.

Do you honestly think Shaq would be throwing all this praise on the Lakers, Jackson, and Kobe if the Lakers were a 8th seed?

NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!

Shaq is about Shaq.... PERIOD. He's pathetic. '

Could have been the best center of all time... and due to his piss ass work ethic he barely cracks the top 5 if that.

Pathetic!