ESPN Radio Rumor: Rasheed for fab and finley (and others)

[venitian navigator]

I disagree. With rumors that Amare is staying with the suns, the Pistons have to know they aren't going to get equal value for a player who will be a half season rental.

IMO, the question is really whether a team can offer enough towards their rebuilding efforts (picks, player rights, young talent, more cap space etc.) to justify losing whatever he might bring them in their playoff run this year, assuming they even make it.

Right.
The new perspective, if effective, could improve the chances of a Wallace trade.
They have, at the moment, two young prospects (Maxiell and Amir Jhonson), plus Kwame Brown and two veterans like Mc Dyess and Wallace : six players, all worth plaiyng time, for only 48 minutes a night...
Imho, if the Spurs agree to sell them, the rights of Splitter (one of the best players in Europe in the some role of Wallace) would fit perfectly in the "new project" : they give the youg guns minutes to get better, they can evaluate the progress in the sistem of Kwame and however, they have the veteran presrence of Mc Dyess and also, in perspective, the chance to have another wonderful and experianced athlete in two years time at low cost.
All that just for a five months rental (Wallace is not in their future plan) ... at the price of giving up on a small (very small, at the moment) percentage of chances of play-off success.
If the Spurs agree (sign and trade Horry plus rights of Splitter for Wallace) I see it like a win win situation...
the only problem is the will of spurs for paiyng the lux tax...

[venitian navigator]

I should have been more clear. The equal talent in return that the Pistons would be looking for would probably have to be some combination of picks/rights/young players. You're correct that the odds of the Pistons being able to trade Sheed straight up for one player who is as good as Sheed are slim.

Unfortunately for the Spurs they can't offer Detroit decent draft picks or more cap space, and that leaves Splitter and Hill filling the rights & young talent roles. If the Spurs were willing to cough up both they might be able to get Dumars to raise an eyebrow. But do the Spurs want to do that?

One more important thing people seem to be forgetting is that Dumars really isn't running all that big a risk of losing Sheed for nothing if he doesn't pull the trigger on a deal. This offseason he can still re-sign Sheed, sign and trade him, or just let him walk and end up with a boatload of cap space in an offseason where most teams will be hesitant to spend money. Dumars has all the cards. The Spurs have nothing to force his hand with.

You're right on this...Dumars having all, the cards in his hand...but I don't buy the re-sign wallace part.
At this point, I think Dumars could evaluate the fact that Wallace knows he's no more in the future plans of the team (how could he be part of the new wave ? the some, practically, can be said of Mc Dyess but unfortunately they can sell him no more this year) and that the effort he could give in a "last run" could be .... less than expected.
So a trade could be, in any case, the best solution for everybody...

[Spur-Addict]

I am sick of people coming to these threads just to whine about the topic everytime I click on them to see if there is any update whatsoever.

+2

PREACH

[hater]

breaking news: this is NOT gonna happen

[urunobili]

breaking news: this is NOT gonna happen

cool... this means we'll sign Mensa soon

[mudyez]

which last run? there is now way they will make it beyond the CF's (event that is unlikely)

if I where dumars, I'd try to find a buyer which offers me one of two things:

1) a young player or pick + expiring contracts

2) taking wallace + another contract of detroits books (only rip comes t mind, but makes any deal pretty blown up)

...1) young players=hill, splitter???

[Spur-Addict]

Is dumars overvalueing the progress of what stuckey can be in this league?

I don't think so. He certainly has the ability and mindset to be a successful player. He has excellent strength and mobility on defense when he plays it. He certainly can get to the basket and finish. His jumper is progressing. Time will tell.

Although I can't see him being a flat out superstar. (Top 15 material)

[TDMVPDPOY]

i swear no matter what we going to pull under the table to get a trade

stern and the zebras are going to be there and stop the spurs from reachin the finals....

[urunobili]

i swear no matter what we going to pull under the table to get a trade

stern and the zebras are going to be there and stop the spurs from reachin the finals....

Stop posting already dude...

[LockBeard]

10th post so I can play arcade games.

[phxspurfan]

Whos that girl in your sig?

[StoneBuddha]

Whos that girl in your sig?

Evangeline Lilly, "Kate" from Lost

[Manufan909]

Wohoo, I was right, and I don't even watch Lost. You can have her phx, I don't dig skinny white girls.

[phxspurfan]

Haha thats precisely my type. Give her brunette hair (and me three shots) and I'd be all over her like Jessica Simpson on a box of donuts.

[mardigan]

breaking news: this is NOT gonna happen

Who is your source?

[Spork KIller]

Stop smoking crack bunch of dumbass losers!

Wallace won't be a spurm...

edup dimwits!

[xellos88330]

Stop smoking crack bunch of dumbass losers!

Wallace won't be a spurm...

edup dimwits!

You first.

[Texas_Ranger]

Stop smoking crack bunch of dumbass losers!

Wallace won't be a spurm...

edup dimwits!

you're gay!

[Muser]

Stop smoking crack bunch of dumbass losers!

Wallace won't be a spurm...

edup dimwits!

Enjoy tanking your season.

[crc21209]

Listening to Chris Duel right now, he had Mike Hermes on right now, who is the guy Chris Duel knows, the same guy who said he has a source from Detroit last week. Well Mike Hermes says he has a source within the Pistons organization and that the Spurs and Pistons were talking about a Sheed deal, but the Pistons wanted Hill or Mason included in the deal and the Spurs turned it down but they are still talking as of right now and it is a 50/50 chance we get Sheed, but that the Spurs and Pistons ARE talking.

[xtremesteven33]

I would include Hill or Mason for Sheed.

But not both.

[benefactor]

Listening to Chris Duel right now, he had Mike Hermes on right now, who is the guy Chris Duel knows, the same guy who said he has a source from Detroit last week. Well Mike Hermes says he has a source within the Pistons organization and that the Spurs and Pistons were talking about a Sheed deal, but the Pistons wanted Hill or Mason included in the deal and the Spurs turned it down but they are still talking as of right now and it is a 50/50 chance we get Sheed, but that the Spurs and Pistons ARE talking.

Wow...I am so holding my breath.

[xtremesteven33]

Listening to Chris Duel right now, he had Mike Hermes on right now, who is the guy Chris Duel knows, the same guy who said he has a source from Detroit last week. Well Mike Hermes says he has a source within the Pistons organization and that the Spurs and Pistons were talking about a Sheed deal, but the Pistons wanted Hill or Mason included in the deal and the Spurs turned it down but they are still talking as of right now and it is a 50/50 chance we get Sheed, but that the Spurs and Pistons ARE talking.

thanks for the update

[crc21209]

thanks for the update

No problem man.

[anjlbitz]

Mason + filler for Sheed?