Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse

[ChumpDumper]

uhh yes exactly

and says the 9/11 commission report doesnt mean and nobody should care about it

The 9/11 Commission Report is important, but not for the reasons you think.

You never read it anyway, so you can't say you really care about any of this.

[Alex Jones]

The 9/11 Commission Report is important, but not for the reasons you think.

You never read it anyway, so you can't say you really care about any of this.

I never read Moby and yet I know it's all bull .

[ChumpDumper]

I never read Moby and yet I know it's all bull .

What about the fictional novel Moby do you consider bull ?

[FreeMason]

Is the government crashing the economy/dollar on purpose to open up the opportunity to gain more control?

[johnsmith.]

The 9/11 Commission Report is important, .

There went your credibility.

[Cry Havoc]

The level of complete annihilation by RandomGuy in this thread is remarkable. I haven't seen a group of people so spanked by a single person in an internet debate in a long time. Must be humiliating to NBADan and Galileo that they are unable to post anything further with substance on the topic of WTC7 and are resorting to, "I only go by facts."

Beautiful.

[johnsmith]

There went your credibility.

Says the guy that is copying someone that is using a fictional name.

[Nbadan]

The level of complete annihilation by RandomGuy in this thread is remarkable. I haven't seen a group of people so spanked by a single person in an internet debate in a long time. Must be humiliating to NBADan and Galileo that they are unable to post anything further with substance on the topic of WTC7 and are resorting to, "I only go by facts."

Beautiful.

Yeah, and were still looking for Saddam's WMDs too....

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah, and were still looking for Saddam's WMDs too....

Now that you mention it, the kind of evasiveness, lack of ability to comprehend basic facts, denial, and double-talk you guys use, you DO actually sound a lot like Bush.

[RandomGuy]

There were no firefighters in WTC 7, so there were no firefighters in WTC 7 to "pull".

Which is entirely consistant with the words of the Assistant fire chief, who actually made the call to pull the operations.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired) Source

[mouse]

Anyone who has seen WTC7 come down and still thinks it's from a fire, doesn't deserve to be taken seriously and therefore forfeits all rights to any mature debate on the subject.

[Galileo]

Which is entirely consistant with the words of the Assistant fire chief, who actually made the call to pull the operations.

Not consistent with Silverstein's BS, where he later said that he meant he wanted to "oull" the firefighters.

Silverstein is tangled up in a web of lies.

[Galileo]

Anyone who has seen WTC7 come down and still thinks it's from a fire, doesn't deserve to be taken seriously and therefore forfeits all rights to any mature debate on the subject.

Great post. A picture is worth a 1000 words.

[Blake]

Anyone who has seen WTC7 come down and still thinks it's from a fire, doesn't deserve to be taken seriously and therefore forfeits all rights to any mature debate on the subject.

so why did they want WTC 7 to come down?

[Blake]

Not consistent with Silverstein's BS, where he later said that he meant he wanted to "oull" the firefighters.

Silverstein is tangled up in a web of lies.

so exactly how much money has Silverstein made thanks to his devious scheme to blow up his building?

[Galileo]

so why did they want WTC 7 to come down?

You can't tell from this video why they wanted WTC 7 to come down. But you can see it coming down.

You are making the same errors that the opponents of Galileo and Newton made.

Galileo and Newton did not know WHY we had gravity, they just knew WHAT gravity did. Decartes did not accept Galileo because he complained that Galileo did not explain WHY we had the law of falling bodies.

Of course, Descartes was wrong. In science, you explain WHAT happens. In philosophy you explain WHY things happen.

The collapse of WTC 7 is a scientific question, not philosophy.

[Galileo]

so exactly how much money has Silverstein made thanks to his devious scheme to blow up his building?

Not sure that he made any money. He did avoid more than a billion dollars of costs to get rid of the asbestos, although that cost would have born by the NYC government as well.

[Blake]

You can't tell from this video why they wanted WTC 7 to come down. But you can see it coming down.

You are making the same errors that the opponents of Galileo and Newton made.

Galileo and Newton did not know WHY we had gravity, they just knew WHAT gravity did. Decartes did not accept Galileo because he complained that Galileo did not explain WHY we had the law of falling bodies.

Of course, Descartes was wrong. In science, you explain WHAT happens. In philosophy you explain WHY things happen.

The collapse of WTC 7 is a scientific question, not philosophy.

I'm never sure who is a mouse troll or who isnt.....some are more obvious than others, but you are coming close to making me a believer that you are...

This is neither scientific nor philosophic. You are accusing Silverstein of being a liar. If he has no alterior motive, then why is he lying?

Why does anyone want WTC 7 to come down? Who gained from this buiulding coming down?

[ChumpDumper]

You can't tell from this video why they wanted WTC 7 to come down. But you can see it coming down.

No one is debating that the building came down.

Not sure that he made any money. He did avoid more than a billion dollars of costs to get rid of the asbestos, although that cost would have born by the NYC government as well.

9/11 was done to avoid asbestos removal!

[RandomGuy]

Not consistent with Silverstein's BS, where he later said that he meant he wanted to "oull" the firefighters.

Silverstein is tangled up in a web of lies.

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Silverstein NEVER EVER said "I made the decision", and his statement fits rather nicely with what Nigro said.

For these reasons I made the decision (without consulting the owner, the mayor or anyone else - as ranking fire officer, that decision was my responsibility) to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed.

Conspiracy theories abound and I believe firmly that all of them are without merit.

Regards, Dan Nigro
Chief of Department FDNY (retired) Source

Unless of course you can show me DIRECT quotes where Silversteien contradicts himself.

[Galileo]

Silverstein NEVER EVER said "I made the decision", and his statement fits rather nicely with what Nigro said.





Unless of course you can show me DIRECT quotes where Silversteien contradicts himself.

Direct yourself to it. You're the person who claims to know everything.

[Blake]

Direct yourself to it. You're the person who claims to know everything.

You claim you're Galileo.

You also say Silverstein is a big liar so why does he want the building to come down? Are you really going with asbestos or is it something else?

[Galileo]

You claim you're Galileo.

You also say Silverstein is a big liar so why does he want the building to come down? Are you really going with asbestos or is it something else?

You are ignorant of science. Anyone with two eyes can see that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Finding out exactly "why" it was done has nothing to do with scientific truth.

[burntorange]

You are ignorant of science. Anyone with two eyes can see that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Finding out exactly "why" it was done has nothing to do with scientific truth.

I have three eyes, and I say it was NOT a controlled demolition!

[johnsmith]

You are ignorant of science. Anyone with two eyes can see that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Finding out exactly "why" it was done has nothing to do with scientific truth.

And you actually think you are a person that died 500 years ago................the world is full of crazy people.