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Ghazi. More like Gayzi
One minute we should blow it up, the next minute we're a trade away from being on the Spurs/Lakers level, even if our best player isn't a "leader" (w/e da that means).
Im just saying
championships dont grow on trees, 7 teams with them in the past 25 years. thats basically 75% of the league without a le in last 25 years.
But I dont lose much sleep on that. The 2006 Finals were tainted by bull whistles and fluke shots, that's the only reason our boys dont have a ring.
But that's the same reason everyone complains about the FO. Cause we almost tasted sweet sweet victory, but were denied due to bull whistles and fluke shots. So now we're upset at our decline because it was a good run without a ring.
But the decline is somewhat overstated. it just happens, just as it did to the Kings/Blazers earlier this decade, and as its happening to the Pistons/Suns/Mavs and to a lesser degree the Spurs now.
The Magic/Celtics/Lakers/Cavs weren't very good 2-3 years ago and now are the class of the league.
When you go from elite to "just good" as the Mavs are, it's usually hard to get back to elite status. Chances are, we'd have to be really ty to ever become elite again.
Also I wonder what everyones feeling would be if we actually ended up winning that Boston game. 4th place doesn't sound as bad as 7th place. But at this point since 4-7 are separated by 1 game, those numbers really are irrelevant.
Not that I think winning or losing that game would've changed the state of the team, but it goes to show how knee jerk people are.
I havent' bothered to read this post yet but I'm sure it's more bull , excuse making, and "we love our team".One minute we should blow it up, the next minute we're a trade away from being on the Spurs/Lakers level, even if our best player isn't a "leader" (w/e da that means).
Im just saying
championships dont grow on trees, 7 teams with them in the past 25 years. thats basically 75% of the league without a le in last 25 years.
But I dont lose much sleep on that. The 2006 Finals were tainted by bull whistles and fluke shots, that's the only reason our boys dont have a ring.
But that's the same reason everyone complains about the FO. Cause we almost tasted sweet sweet victory, but were denied due to bull whistles and fluke shots. So now we're upset at our decline because it was a good run without a ring.
But the decline is somewhat overstated. it just happens, just as it did to the Kings/Blazers earlier this decade, and as its happening to the Pistons/Suns/Mavs and to a lesser degree the Spurs now.
The Magic/Celtics/Lakers/Cavs weren't very good 2-3 years ago and now are the class of the league.
When you go from elite to "just good" as the Mavs are, it's usually hard to get back to elite status. Chances are, we'd have to be really ty to ever become elite again.
Also I wonder what everyones feeling would be if we actually ended up winning that Boston game. 4th place doesn't sound as bad as 7th place. But at this point since 4-7 are separated by 1 game, those numbers really are irrelevant.
Not that I think winning or losing that game would've changed the state of the team, but it goes to show how knee jerk people are.
Why bother? Mavs are 'expected' to be kicked out in the first round.
And no, you can't revolt against that idea. You don't love our team if you do.
You guys are right. We're a Mike Miller or John Salmons or Vince muthu in Carter away from competing with the Lakers and Spurs. Acquiring one of these players washes away our pedestrian defense and roster flaws.
Let's stand pat and wait for 2010... in the meantime I'll keep loving our team
That exact line of thinking "not doing anything BUT Gasol-like deals" is why the Mavs are going to enjoy another first round exit.
Standing pat only confirms that Mark and Donnie are incompetent s who are too in love with their own players, which is why Josh Howard is still here...the new excuse being that Darrell Armstrong is going to rejuvenate him.
So last year the Kidd trade was to win now, but every line from the FO these days is being a player in 2010. The s in the FO are just feeding the fans more BS for another wasted season and more to come.
I-10 rivarly! We love our team
One minute we should blow it up, the next minute we're a trade away from being on the Spurs/Lakers level, even if our best player isn't a "leader" (w/e da that means).
Im just saying
championships dont grow on trees, 7 teams with them in the past 25 years. thats basically 75% of the league without a le in last 25 years.
But I dont lose much sleep on that. The 2006 Finals were tainted by bull whistles and fluke shots, that's the only reason our boys dont have a ring.
But that's the same reason everyone complains about the FO. Cause we almost tasted sweet sweet victory, but were denied due to bull whistles and fluke shots. So now we're upset at our decline because it was a good run without a ring.
But the decline is somewhat overstated. it just happens, just as it did to the Kings/Blazers earlier this decade, and as its happening to the Pistons/Suns/Mavs and to a lesser degree the Spurs now.
The Magic/Celtics/Lakers/Cavs weren't very good 2-3 years ago and now are the class of the league.
When you go from elite to "just good" as the Mavs are, it's usually hard to get back to elite status. Chances are, we'd have to be really ty to ever become elite again.
Also I wonder what everyones feeling would be if we actually ended up winning that Boston game. 4th place doesn't sound as bad as 7th place. But at this point since 4-7 are separated by 1 game, those numbers really are irrelevant.
Not that I think winning or losing that game would've changed the state of the team, but it goes to show how knee jerk people are.
Why don't you stop living in the past!!! in about calls won't win you a le any more than having an injury riddled team.
2010? Forget about 2010
As for now, what great deal can we make? Our "push all the chips in" move WAS the Kidd trade last year.
What are our assets?
Stackhouse? better expirings.
J-Ho? Any trade involving J-Ho is likely lateral, unless its for a big, but then that leaves us depleted at swingmen.
young talent? Bass... who I think is kinda important to the team, but alas, better young talent anyway.
Draft picks? Gone.
You all are whining and moaning, as if you guys know whats actually going on during the phone calls with other front offices?
If we don't make a trade, it doesn't mean the FO were content with the situation. But sometimes it IS better to stand pat than make a trade for the sake of making a trade.
Too much whining anyway. Our best case scenario is getting a 4 seed, 1 playoff series win, and getting swiftly beaten by the Lakers. I'm not sure if any trade could've upgraded our "best case scenario". There is no trade out there that changes the fact that Kobe/Gasol is a far more impressive tandem than Dirk/Terry, the fact that the Lakers have a deeper bench, better coaching, better offense, better defense, and would have HCA and we have historically struggled in Staples.etc.
I compare us to the Lakers because we do haev a "championship or bust" mindset, right? The West goes through the Lakers, who own us regardless of whether a trade was accomplished or not.
SO yeah... as vexing as standing pat may be, let's get real here, we're not catching the Lakers. And quite frankly, I still think we can win a single playoff series even without a trade, only if we get 4/5 seed though v Rockets/Blazers (maybe Hornets now that Chandler is gone, but Paul really owns us IDK).
our mantra or Cuban's over the years was to spend a lot of money to land big names and keep the team compe ive i was fine with that (Antoine Walker, Van Exel, Lafrentz, Antwawn Jamison, Jason Kidd, almost getting Shaq, Danny Fortson [at the time], Jerry Stackhouse, etc.) most panned out pretty well so im shocked to see that they didnt pull the trigger on a Davis/Kaman for Kidd deal
Barea isnt bad. Diop was a good pickup the first time around. And Daniels was a steal until we overpayed him.
Diop & Daniels were found when Nellie was still around. Barea's taken 3 years to be a barely serviceable homeless man's Jason Terry.
i dont know whats more comical the Mavs slogan "We Love our Team" or Mavs fans hoping that we acquire our savior John Salmons from the Kings
John Salmons isn't the grand slam that Shaq/Mike Miller/Gerald Wallace would be, but it would be a very nice 2-RBI double. I'm all for getting Salmons, especially if Stack+more crap is all it takes.
Sure the Stack +trash for Salmons is a no brainer but what if the Kings demand you to take on Beno's deal
I wouldn't care but I'm sure Cuban does. If he already was stupid enough to reject Davis/Kaman for Kidd, I'm sure he'd poop all over any deal that gives us back bad contracts in addition to significantly improved talent.
The only deal I'm not at all jazzed about is anything for Brad Miller. Why exactly would we want a guy who can't defend in the paint, has no post game, no athleticism, and would do nothing but get in Dirk's way? Oh, he can "pass".....because that's what this team really needs.
If Miller cant play the high post then he is worthless on offense which means he is completely worthless bc he plays no D. Dirk aint going down low so B. Miller has no business on the mavs
J-Ho really needs to post up more. He was doing work down there last year.
I still would like the mavs to pursue M. Miller for Stack + (insert mavs spare). Salmons is nice but he cant spread the floor Mike Miller....however i am surprised at Salmons shooting from the outside this season...based on his career numbers, he is nothing close to his 42% from 3 this season
we've seen more of this in recent games...imo if J-ho is your 4th option then you are fine...Dirk, JET, _____, J-Ho
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.4179add.html
No deal for Dallas Mavericks in lackluster trade market
The Mavericks were players in trade talks with the Sacramento Kings about John Salmons. How seriously they were in the game is open to debate.
They apparently had Jerry Stackhouse on the table, perhaps paired with one of their young big men – possibly Brandon Bass.
That would have required Sacramento to send along another player to make the money work. But it all became a moot point when the Kings sent Salmons and Brad Miller to Chicago for a package of players.
Clearly, the Kings had bigger fish to fry than what the Mavericks had in their aquarium.
And now?
"I don't know that there's a whole lot more that's going to be done," owner Mark Cuban said. "Everybody's looking to do the same thing, save money and to save cap room [for the future]. It's hard to do both."
If the Mavericks pull off anything today before the 2 p.m. trade deadline, it is not expected to be anything earth-shaking. What their inactivity means – and what a general lack of movement throughout the league indicates – is that next summer is going to be outrageous in terms of teams trying to shed even more payroll.
As Cuban said, when teams start realizing that season-ticket renewals aren't pouring in like they usually do, purse strings will get even tighter. Cuban tries to play the role of the owner who can pull the trigger when he thinks it's the right thing to do. But when the deals simply aren't out there, it makes doing nothing the only sensible course.
the trade market was being described as a golden opportunity for another Gasol-type deal just 24 hours ago by Cuban. Now suddenly the market is "lackluster" simply because, yet again, the Mavs try and lowball Sacramento and end up getting bit in the ass.
Mark Cuban.
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