Update... RJ talks Stalled, Vince deal dead...

[Holt's Cat]

Uh..Mason has shown he can drop 20 points a night. He did earlier this season when Manu was out and Tuesday night in NY.

I like VC.....for someone who will make 33 million in the next 2 seasons and to lose your backcourt depth as well....will not solve the problem.

A few times doesn't mean jack. Hill isn't that much to write home about. You guys are severely overrating those players.

I like having as much scoring as possible over the next two years of Duncan's career, especially now that Ginobili's durability is in question. That's the major issue here.

[Shastafarian]

Probably. Hill certainly is not. Neither is Mason. Win now, worry later.

LOL Vince Carter is a hall of famer. Hilarious

[MarHill]

ROFL. Which is why they've been after every high priced talent on the market this year. They are clearly out to make a move.

If you're a fan of the Spurs' financials, bully for you. I'd rather see them win.

Hmmm.....

3 of the last 6 championships and the last Western Conference team to win a le.

No worse than the 2nd round playoffs since 2000 and avg at least 55 wins a season during that time.

And considered one of the best run franchises in all of pro sports.

I don't believe winning is an issue. Talk to Dallas and Phoenix about that.

Speaking of Phoenix...look at that franchise when they overextended themselves in a trade. Interesting!!

Also..look at Dallas as well.

You have to look at the finances if you are running a team. Fantasy Basketball doesn't work in real life!!!

[Shastafarian]

WTF do you care what he's making? He's obviously better than the other 2 combined and its not even close.

Do you know what the salary cap is and how many men make up a roster?

[MarHill]

A few times doesn't mean jack. Hill isn't that much to write home about. You guys are severely overrating those players.

I like having as much scoring as possible over the next two years of Duncan's career, especially now that Ginobili's durability is in question. That's the major issue here.

I'm not overvaluing these players...once again.

But they have shown their value to this team and the Spurs see that value and I can see why they don't want to give up them even in a deal for VC.

[MannyIsGod]

Do you know what the salary cap is and how many men make up a roster?

You're a fool. Do you know that the Spurs can sign players to minimum deals to fill out the roster?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Like I said - Spurs fan overvalue their role players

Couldn't agree more.

I just hope Mason can average double figures come playoff time

[MarHill]

WTF do you care what he's making? He's obviously better than the other 2 combined and its not even close.

The Spurs care and its a business not fantasy basketball!!

Sheesh!!!

[Shastafarian]

You're a fool. Do you know that the Spurs can sign players to minimum deals to fill out the roster?

Sounds like it would be an AWESOME team!

[SenorSpur]

Why are the Fakers so tough? Because they have depth. Why did the Celtics win the le? Because of their bench was just as vital to them as their Big Three. Do you recall a Spurs championship team that didn't have solid contributing bench? When is the last time you've seen a team win a le with a bench full of scrubs? I'll answer it for you. Never.

As MarHill stated, if you want Jacque Vaughn as your primary backup PG and Finley playing 30 mins a night, you still wont win.

You can't simply ravage the bench of contributing role players to sign a great player and expect that trade to automatically put the team over the top. It simply doesn't work that way. You can't with with a rotation of 6 players.

Besides, Carter isn't the only move the Spurs can make. It just seems to be the one that has gotten Spurs fans pants to go crazy. Still believe there is something else brewing.

[TheSpursFNRule]

Stop over rating Hill. You people are ing lunatics.

[MarHill]

You're a fool. Do you know that the Spurs can sign players to minimum deals to fill out the roster?

Yeah...they could but they will be players that are borderline NBA players at best and everyone on this forum goes nuts when Jacque Vaughn plays in a game even if the Spurs are up by 20.

Sheesh!!

The fact you are not looking at this from the Spurs' perspective...you have clearly missed it!!

[Slinkyman]

Sounds like it would be an AWESOME team!

Have you seen Boston's payroll? 3 players above 18 mil and the rest at 4 million or less most of which are at 1 mil. Last time i checked they're the defending champs...

[MarHill]

Stop over rating Hill. You people are ing lunatics.

Again..no one is over rating Hill.

But he has value to this team and it amazes that spoiled Spurs fans can't see that!

[Holt's Cat]

LOL Vince Carter is a hall of famer. Hilarious

How is he not? He's going to end up with over 20K points for his career.

[Holt's Cat]

I'm not overvaluing these players...once again.

But they have shown their value to this team and the Spurs see that value and I can see why they don't want to give up them even in a deal for VC.

So their value to this team has been that they're marginally better than Jacque Vaughn and Brent Barry. Grand.

[Shastafarian]

Have you seen Boston's payroll? 3 players above 18 mil and the rest at 4 million or less most of which are at 1 mil. Last time i checked they're the defending champs...

They're also well over the luxury tax threshold.

[MarHill]

Have you seen Boston's payroll? 3 players above 18 mil and the rest at 4 million or less most of which are at 1 mil. Last time i checked they're the defending champs...

Yeah...they have been looking for depth all season even to the point they are interested in Stephen Marbury.

Losing P.J Brown and James Posey were big losses for that team. And good role players for the right team are essential....

[MarHill]

So their value to this team has been that they're marginally better than Jacque Vaughn and Brent Barry. Grand.

But they fit this team and that's what matters!!

Yikes!!!

[Holt's Cat]

Have you seen Boston's payroll? 3 players above 18 mil and the rest at 4 million or less most of which are at 1 mil. Last time i checked they're the defending champs...

Did you watch the last postseason? A non-hobbled scoring swingman would've meant #5.

[Holt's Cat]

But they fit this team and that's what matters!!

Yikes!!!

Matt Bonner fits this team. Yikes indeed.

[MarHill]

Did you watch the last postseason? A non-hobbled scoring swingman would've meant #5.

You just made my point!!

If the Spurs have someone else outside of the Big 3 who could score...like Mason that would have helped them.

So in the off season...the Spurs decided to go younger and they got backcourt depth. They addressed a need!! Amazing!!!

[Holt's Cat]

Failure to communicate: George Hill believes he was whistled for a key foul late in Tuesday's loss to the Knicks, simply by way of miscommunication.

The Spurs were behind by three with 25 seconds in overtime, and Hill and Bruce Bowen had Wilson Chandler trapped in the backcourt. The ball squirted loose and into Bowen's arms at about the time an official's whistle blew.

“I was saying ‘Hit, hit,'” Hill said, referring to the name of the Spurs defensive call. “I think the ref thought I was saying I was hitting (Chandler).”

In late-game situations, it is common practice for teams to inform the officials when they plan to commit a foul to stop the clock.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...road_trip.html

[Slinkyman]

Yeah...they have been looking for depth all season even to the point they are interested in Stephen Marbury.

Losing P.J Brown and James Posey were big losses for that team. And good role players for the right team are essential....

Seriously, losing PJ Brown was a huge loss? they're 44 and 11 i don't think they're missing PJ ing Brown right now.

[Holt's Cat]

You just made my point!!

If the Spurs have someone else outside of the Big 3 who could score...like Mason that would have helped them.

So in the off season...the Spurs decided to go younger and they got backcourt depth. They addressed a need!! Amazing!!!

ROFL. Barry provided the Mason output last postseason. Next.